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Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

There are plastic nubs you can place on their claw tips, however it is doubtful it would be successful if it wasn't started while they were kittens or very young.

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

You can definitely trim the nails. They sell clippers for this purpose. When my cat’s claws are freshly trimmed, she can’t hurt me at all — I think it actually annoys her that I’m able to ignore her when she tries to get my attention.

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

There are nail clippers suitable for cats which help.

Some cats will protest violently and make it extremely difficult to trim them though

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

People would be disappointed to know how frequently this directly or indirectly (owner surrender to shelter) leads to euthanasia. It's going to be a sad side effect of this otherwise well-meaning legislation.

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And in Judaism you must circumcise in order to signify your acceptance of an ancient religious covenant. Without this acceptance the religion is castrated, eviscerated, made null. Which is of course the sole goal of its critics. There's also solid scientific evidence it contributes some health benefits, but we can and should ignore that.

Why not wait until they're adults and they can consent to the procedure?

The Judaic perspective is that the covenant applied to all future generations at the time of Moses. It is the son's father who consents to pass the legacy on and indicates this choice eight days after birth or thereabouts through this ritual.

One does not choose to be a Jew, one's ancestors made that choice for oneself.

There are many secular Jews and they are Jews none the less, accepted by the tribe even if they do not accept the beliefs. It's not the same kind of covenant as being born again or other personal belief systems that a person chooses for themselves.

Individualism is also a belief system, a cult, and is valid in and of itself. But it's not the only system, nor is it the most correct, nor even correct at all according to many.

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

Sure, just clip their claws using nail clippers. You can see how far down the claw the nail bed goes, so just avoid that and take the point off. Having said that, unless you get them accustomed to the process as a kitten, you may end up suffering more than if you hadn’t attempted it in the first place.

In case somebody without experience is reading this and wanting to try to cut the nails back, make sure you don't cut them back too far or you'll clip the vein inside and cause them to bleed and a lot of pain (imagine cutting your nail off halfway to the cuticle). If you cut the nails in a well lit room you can actually see the vein inside so you can avoid it. Alternatively you can also bring them to a groomer to have this done. It also helps of they have a scratching post, sonething rough and durable like those wound rope ones so they can "file" them down naturally in between clippings.

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That’s really unrelated. I get that it seems analogous to you, but it’s weird to me that a cats claw is similar to a foreskin in your mind. Declawing is much more like cutting off the cats fingers

>That’s really unrelated. it's a state-allowed form of mutilation for the sake of convenience, and very rarely medically indicated. the furthest reach is that one is a human practice -- the rest of it seems pretty relatable. Does the fact that cat declawing has no religious adherents bother you with regards to the comparison? That's understandable, but it doesn't make the two less comparable, just more sensitive to a…

Not quite the same in my book either. This would be more analogous to cutting off the tip of each of your fingers to the first knuckle.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in Judaism you must circumcise in order to signify your acceptance of an ancient religious covenant. Without this acceptance the religion is castrated, eviscerated, made null. Which is of course the sole goal of its critics. There's also solid scientific evidence it contributes some health benefits, but we can and should ignore that.

Why not wait until they're adults and they can consent to the procedure?

In addition to what the others have said, it's less painful and easier to have done when younger. This is like saying parents shouldn't be allowed to make kids go to school, they should wait until they're old enough to make the decision themselves. Sometimes parents need to make a decision for their children, it's only logical.
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