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Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Are these browsers popular in China? I’m only aware of UC.

The QQ browser is the default for opening URLs in Tencent's popular messaging apps QQ and WeChat, so it probably has a larger market share than UC. The others are a bit more niche I think, but I don't know for sure. There should be some statistics on this page by Baidu, but I can't confirm because it requires Flash (!) and I'm on mobile: https://tongji.baidu.com/data/browser

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

> they'll put great emphasis on promoting their own browsers in foreign countries, force hardware vendors to preinstall their browsers on devices sold outside China

This will also help them monitor people's communications to acquire kompromat. See also the Chinese ownership of Grindr.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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The actual browsers are hard coded to filter a single github repo? Is it common for them to filter at the browser level?

Maybe those web browsers are linked to a online URL database. If any URL is matched in the database, then they will refuse to load the page. But if true, that also means those web browsers are querying a online database when user is trying to access a URL. Not a good news no matter how you hold it.

Doesn't Chrome and Firefox do the same for known malicious websites? IIRC they use hashes and / or a local database of hashes, but I can't be sure. Pretty sure that caused major controversy in its earlier days too.

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

>Now for the sad part, even after they've showed their cards, companies and governments will still continue to invest in China, continue to bend over and do whatever they ask for. Publicly-traded companies are completely enslaved to profit-seeking because of their overriding need to appease shareholders, lest shareholders fire them and install someone more willing to do whatever it takes to seek profit. This is why r…

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Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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How come operators of the github page are not in some reeducation camp, or elimitated? Seems like the censors are not as knowing as we thought.

Well how would you know if they were and the operators haven't been replaced by government agents? There's rumours that the same thing happened with Wikileaks and it's now controlled by US government agents.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 加?问号随机参数试试,微信可以打开 The block isn't very smart if it can be circumvented by adding random query parameters with a question mark.

Maybe, but you have to know to do that in order to get around it. If you don't know much about the page and get a 404, maybe you just roll on. If you know to circumvent it, then you probabbly know a bit more about the page anyway, maybe not the person they're trying to filter it from. At least from UI testing we know that a thing not working, or just working slowly is enough to turn away a lot of people.

Maybe

But it is a github repo. Only a small number of interested people are going to be headed there

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

They’ll rewrite any article that they feel is a threat to their power systems and therefore a threat to China. No surprise there. We have similar measures in the US - the government is willing to strip your rights if they feel you’re a threat.

There is nothing really all that new in what you’ve suggested. I would be surprised if those things didn’t happen.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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How come operators of the github page are not in some reeducation camp, or elimitated? Seems like the censors are not as knowing as we thought.

Well how would you know if they were and the operators haven't been replaced by government agents? There's rumours that the same thing happened with Wikileaks and it's now controlled by US government agents.

Russian, more likely

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

They’ll rewrite any article that they feel is a threat to their power systems and therefore a threat to China. No surprise there. We have similar measures in the US - the government is willing to strip your rights if they feel you’re a threat. There is nothing really all that new in what you’ve suggested. I would be surprised if those things didn’t happen.

> the government is willing to strip your rights if they feel you’re a threat.

And most citizens won't make a peep about it if it's painted as "fighting (or preventing) terrorism". Case in point: the door-to-door searches in the wake of the Boston Marathon Bombing, which were a violation of the 4th Amendment.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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How come operators of the github page are not in some reeducation camp, or elimitated? Seems like the censors are not as knowing as we thought.

Well how would you know if they were and the operators haven't been replaced by government agents? There's rumours that the same thing happened with Wikileaks and it's now controlled by US government agents.

The fact that the repo hasn't been deleted and they continue to accept PRs is a pretty strong hint that no such thing has happened yet.
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