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Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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How come operators of the github page are not in some reeducation camp, or elimitated? Seems like the censors are not as knowing as we thought.

This seems more like corporate entities reaching to silence dissent.

Not sure they always reach for a solution like " reeducation camp, or elimitated" in such cases... I don't think it says anything about censorship or the autocracy in China that some folks who don't like working long hours aren't in prison, or are still alive.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Without Google Translation (In Chinese): https://github.com/996icu/996.ICU/pull/24904#issuecomment-47...

> 加?问号随机参数试试,微信可以打开 The block isn't very smart if it can be circumvented by adding random query parameters with a question mark.

Maybe, but you have to know to do that in order to get around it.

If you don't know much about the page and get a 404, maybe you just roll on.

If you know to circumvent it, then you probabbly know a bit more about the page anyway, maybe not the person they're trying to filter it from.

At least from UI testing we know that a thing not working, or just working slowly is enough to turn away a lot of people.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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The actual browsers are hard coded to filter a single github repo? Is it common for them to filter at the browser level?

If you put UC into a debugger, you see a function with a very telling name "blocklist" pointing on a code with strings containing some github urls and, surprise, some defunct urls at microsoft.com and adsense cdn.

It's 2019, and people still keep forgetting stripping debug symbols.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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The actual browsers are hard coded to filter a single github repo? Is it common for them to filter at the browser level?

If you put UC into a debugger, you see a function with a very telling name "blocklist" pointing on a code with strings containing some github urls and, surprise, some defunct urls at microsoft.com and adsense cdn. It's 2019, and people still keep forgetting stripping debug symbols.

Well it is important to name functions clearly ;)

Good for them I guess!

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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How come operators of the github page are not in some reeducation camp, or elimitated? Seems like the censors are not as knowing as we thought.

As long as you are very clear you are not directing your anger at the government, it's usually ok to protest in China. For example, there are often mass protests if wages are not paid to factory workers, etc.

https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-migrant-workers-protest-un...

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820...), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only block specific pages on https (as we see here) but also replace the individual page with their own content).. This will make it very easy for China to not only censor the internet, but also to rewrite history completely. Replace the Wikipedia article related to the Tienanmen massacre with their own, replace Googles search results with their own, etc.

To make matters even more scary, they'll put great emphasis on promoting their own browsers in foreign countries, force hardware vendors to preinstall their browsers on devices sold outside China. Forget about the Chinese Firewall, this will take censorship and rewritten history to a whole new level that will affect people all over the world, and make it much much easier to affect foreign policies and elections.

Now for the sad part, even after they've showed their cards, companies and governments will still continue to invest in China, continue to bend over and do whatever they ask for.

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

>Now for the sad part, even after they've showed their cards, companies and governments will still continue to invest in China, continue to bend over and do whatever they ask for.

Publicly-traded companies are completely enslaved to profit-seeking because of their overriding need to appease shareholders, lest shareholders fire them and install someone more willing to do whatever it takes to seek profit.

This is why regulation is necessary -- not because businesses are amoral, but because shareholders are, and businesses have to be whatever shareholders want them to be.

If we want businesses to act a certain way toward political and social freedoms abroad, we have to either tie the hands of employees through prohibitions or incentivize shareholders toward other avenues of seeking profit.

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