They are making children go through these things and then showing them naked to who knows? That violation should surpass the far more vague "religious freedom".
EPIC Lawsuit to Suspend Deployment of Body Scanners at US Airports
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#22Why didn't they add some kind of protection act for children to this lawsuit as well? They are making children go through these things and then showing them naked to who knows? That violation should surpass the far more vague "religious freedom".
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#23As exciting as this sounds, the dates are all at least several months old. Anybody know more about the current status of this, or the direction it's heading?
The actual document submitted to the court is dated November 1, 2010.
[PDF] http://epic.org/privacy/litigation/EPIC_Body_Scanner_OB_Fina...
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#24From my experience full body scanners are much faster and more convenient compared to traditional system when you take off your shoes and go through metal detector. If you are unlucky an airport worker additionally scans you with a hand metal scanner. With full body scanner you just enter the cabin and voila! The scan takes 3 seconds.
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#25From my experience full body scanners are much faster and more convenient compared to traditional system when you take off your shoes and go through metal detector. If you are unlucky an airport worker additionally scans you with a hand metal scanner. With full body scanner you just enter the cabin and voila! The scan takes 3 seconds.
Ultimately, I think a public health angle would have been a far more effective tact to take in the lawsuit or in the arguments against these scanners. It's the trump card. Privacy always loses an argument to fear and "security" in our post-9/11 national discourse. Sad to say, but that's true. Health, though? That's a different matter.
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#26From my experience full body scanners are much faster and more convenient compared to traditional system when you take off your shoes and go through metal detector. If you are unlucky an airport worker additionally scans you with a hand metal scanner. With full body scanner you just enter the cabin and voila! The scan takes 3 seconds.
FWIW, it's only in US airports that I've had to take off my shoes for the past year or so.
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#27Rights, like a muscle, must be exercised. However, I feel entering a country which I'm not a citizen of (like the US), is a privilege, not a right. Thus, they can ask anything of me they want..and I can chose not to enter the country.
I imagine that you can opt-out of the electronic strip search, just as US citizens can.
An interesting, though sadly irrelevant note: the Constitution does not grant to the Federal government the power to regulate foreign immigration.
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#28Rights, like a muscle, must be exercised. However, I feel entering a country which I'm not a citizen of (like the US), is a privilege, not a right. Thus, they can ask anything of me they want..and I can chose not to enter the country.
> However, I feel entering a country which I'm not
> a citizen of (like the US), is a privilege, not a
> right. Thus, they can ask anything of me they want..
> and I can chose not to enter the country.
What about when your flight makes an emergency landing in the US (i.e. a passenger has a heart-attack)? You are forced to enter the country even though you may not want to.This was the case with some Iranian refugees that were trying to seek asylum in Canada. They had fake Greek passports, and their flight had to make an emergency landing in the US. The US officials then arrested them for trying to enter the US with fake passports.
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#29Almost no politician would ever vote for removing this awful "security" measure. They would risk being blamed when another incompetent terrorist mastermind passes security and hopefully gets stopped by, now much more vigilant passengers. Going to the courts seems like a good way around that - sue the TSA. If someone with experience on these types of issues could comment I would be very interested to learn if this has…
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#30From my experience full body scanners are much faster and more convenient compared to traditional system when you take off your shoes and go through metal detector. If you are unlucky an airport worker additionally scans you with a hand metal scanner. With full body scanner you just enter the cabin and voila! The scan takes 3 seconds.
I choose the former. It annoys them and I get to make at least one TSA agent uncomfortable.