I was under the impression that concealed carry permits are extremely difficult to get in the vast majority of California?
Lawyer: ‘It’s a Free for All’ for Criminals on BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit)
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#22A vocal minority of the public in the Bay Area seem to openly resent the police and make them unwelcome, and the silent majority don't push back. This is what happens when the police (and the truth) are made unwelcome.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholdin...
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#23Yeah, BART police is a joke. I don’t remember ever seeing a BART police officer riding a train with me. I rarely see them in stations. Getting in and out without paying almost seems easier than paying. SF and Oakland officers never stroll through stations, which is so obviously wrong from a public safety standpoint, yet it seems to be policy. Then again I rarely see SF police officers walking the streets as it is. Ye…
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But really people all just need to show up at city council meetings and demand better.
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#24Maybe they should issue more concealed carry permits in bay area counties. It's wrong for the police to simultaneously neglect your protection and also prevent you from protecting yourself.
I don't want somebody shooting for any reason on the BART.
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#26Maybe they should issue more concealed carry permits in bay area counties. It's wrong for the police to simultaneously neglect your protection and also prevent you from protecting yourself.
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#27"Sibia caught a glimpse of a revolver in the man’s waist, and let go. The assailant slipped out just as the train doors closed behind him, he said." I was under the impression that concealed carry permits are extremely difficult to get in the vast majority of California?
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#28Does BART have unlimited liability for the actions of others? Probably not. Should BART have more security at problem stations? Sure. Most of this sounds like a failure of the local police though, transit security is generally not going to handle reporting assault and theft, as those are the jurisdiction of the municipality where the crime occured.
I think crimes on Bart are the jurisdiction of Bart police. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Rapid_Transit_Police_...
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#29I read a lot of anti-police and criminal apologist rhetoric from that part of the world. Granted I may have some sort of selection bias or sampling bias, but it really does not surprise me to see this take place. It seems to me that there are certain political movements that you can't really criticize publicly for a variety of reasons, who have - through political pressure, rendered the policing power of the state to…
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#30I have heard it said that BART is still safer, despite these recent crimes, than walking the streets that BART travels under.