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ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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So, just curious, how does filtering out spam work, if the email provider does not have access to the contents? Not saying it's not possible, but I wonder if any current users of ProtonMail could comment on this? If you use ProtonMail, are you mostly just on your own in regards to spam filtering?

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

FastMail is based in a Five Eyes country, ProtonMail is not.

Let's stop repeating this myth: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/switzerland-wont...

I am sorry I am pasting an article instead of making my own point but the fact remains that just because it's Switzerland doesn't meant it's any better.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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So, just curious, how does filtering out spam work, if the email provider does not have access to the contents? Not saying it's not possible, but I wonder if any current users of ProtonMail could comment on this? If you use ProtonMail, are you mostly just on your own in regards to spam filtering?

It could be done in javascript at the time the user logs in.

Also, protonmail can see the contents of the email "in-flight", so they could filter spam at that time.

I've only used protonmail briefly and didn't notice any spam filtering features.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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So they want users to ditch one centralized service provider with another?

I have no Google/Microsoft/iCloud account, ProtonMail has been covering my (pretty basic) email needs for well over three years now, and now I'm leaving them.

Proton has been talking about adding calendar for years (unreleased), then they started working on ProtonDrive (unreleased), now they talk about an office suite... Then then flirted with the idea of doing an ICO to fund themselves, at which point I decided to leave. I don't want to be in a ship that sails in circles and doesn't have a clear direction.

ProtonMail free has 500MB, no IMAP, and max of 3 folders and 150 emails a day, versus Google's free, familiar, full-featured set of well-integrated services. Will they convince the average Google user to leave productivity behind, and pay in the process?

And again, they are a for-profit. What will happen the day they realize they can't pay the bills at the Alps with free users?

They can promise whatever they want, Google's motto was "Don't be evil".

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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So, just curious, how does filtering out spam work, if the email provider does not have access to the contents? Not saying it's not possible, but I wonder if any current users of ProtonMail could comment on this? If you use ProtonMail, are you mostly just on your own in regards to spam filtering?

> So, just curious, how does filtering out spam work, if the email provider does not have access to the contents?

Much (most?) of spam filtering is done using DKIM/SPF/DMARC/ARC, domain reputation, and IP reputation, none of which require access to the contents.

I'm not saying that you should go and make all your email subjects "Free herbal viagra" or whatever, but modern spam filtering algorithms revolve somewhat less around those kinds of trigger phrases than they used to.

Also, spam is by definition sent in bulk, so as long as the emails are hitting either some accounts on other email providers or else are hitting some honeypots on ProtonMail then you still get the benefit of being able to have the sender blacklisted based on the contents.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FastMail is based in a Five Eyes country, ProtonMail is not.

Let's stop repeating this myth: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/switzerland-wont... I am sorry I am pasting an article instead of making my own point but the fact remains that just because it's Switzerland doesn't meant it's any better.

is this article written with a US person being the one storing their mail?

Because as a non US citizen, not having to touch US providers is quite a big plus in my book.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#29

Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

I've switched to RunBox. Custom domains are supported; they're based in Norway. The web interface is very basic (I think they're about to release a new version), but I prefer IMAP anyway.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's stop repeating this myth: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/switzerland-wont... I am sorry I am pasting an article instead of making my own point but the fact remains that just because it's Switzerland doesn't meant it's any better.

is this article written with a US person being the one storing their mail? Because as a non US citizen, not having to touch US providers is quite a big plus in my book.

Yea. The U.S. has pretty strong speech and search protection for their citizens, but those don't extend to non-citizens.
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