ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Post by wind_of_pain » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 4:46 PM UTC

ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts
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Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Post by totoglazer » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:40 PM UTC

Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Post by samschooler » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:45 PM UTC

totoglazer wrote: post #2

Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

I think they both have there pros and cons, however I would like to emphasize having both around. It really does make for a healthy email ecosystem which prevents larger market holders from changing the federated standard.

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Post by ddevault » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:47 PM UTC

totoglazer wrote: post #2

Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

I strongly recommend FastMail over ProtonMail. ProtonMail doesn't support SMTP or IMAP (standard protocols that are a basic requirement of an email service) without using paid, proprietary software which only supports some platforms and is a major pain to use. They also require a proprietary app to read email on your phone. ProtonMail also makes questionable tradeoffs in the name of questionable security gains.

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Post by IdontRememberIt » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:48 PM UTC

We had so many scammers using this provider that we require a SMS verification if they use this email address for account creation. Sad. :(

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Post by autotune » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:53 PM UTC

IdontRememberIt wrote: post #5

We had so many scammers using this provider that we require a SMS verification if they use this email address for account creation. Sad. :(

> SMS verification

I am sure the scammers are not deterred lol.

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Post by mdhen » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:54 PM UTC

Protonmail would be great with some usability and feature improvements. Right now it has limited support for imap, smtp, pop3. You're basically limited to the biggest desktop clients. The desktop web client is okay.

But the biggest drawback right now that I can see, is mobile. Their app does not support threaded conversations or any of the newer features that we've come to expect because of Gmail. You also can't use a third party app like k9. So for me at least, it's not good enough yet to use as my primary account. Really wish it was though.

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Post by rootusrootus » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:55 PM UTC

There are two reasons I'm still with Google for mail at this point: Inertia, and cost. The former is pretty easy to understand. The latter has more to do with the fact that I have a private domain for our family and I've been using Google Apps since the days when it was free. If I want to convert to another service like ProtonMail then I'm either going to tell a bunch of people in my family to pay up (with all the accompanying annoyances), or I pay $50+/year on their behalf out of my own pocket. And in either case I probably get to move their email for them. It's hard to get up the enthusiasm to do any of that, even if I do have a growing desire to disconnect from Google.

I haven't done any thorough searching recently, but if I could find a reputable provider that had a reasonable family-priced solution that would be ideal. The per-account pricing adds up relatively quickly.

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Post by Scott_Sanderson » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:57 PM UTC

ddevault wrote: post #4

totoglazer wrote: post #2

Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

I strongly recommend FastMail over ProtonMail. ProtonMail doesn't support SMTP or IMAP (standard protocols that are a basic requirement of an email service) without using paid, proprietary software which only supports some platforms and is a major pain to use. They also require a proprietary app to read email on your phone. ProtonMail also makes questionable tradeoffs in the name of questionable security gains.

> ProtonMail also makes questionable tradeoffs in the name of questionable security gains

For example?

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

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Post by LeoPanthera » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

totoglazer wrote: post #2

Anyone have thoughts on ProtonMail vs FastMail, as a gmail successor?

Personally, I'm unwilling to use a mail provider that does not offer standard IMAP and SMTP. So I use Fastmail. (And I've been using them since 2002. Is this what being a hipster feels like?)