So Facebook is going with the tu quoque fallacy. Perhaps the others will be in trouble in future too, but sorry Facebook, it's your turn now.
"Look, others are doing it too!"
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
If people were educated with how the internet works they would know that the second you load some piece of content from someone else's servers they have your information as well.
Yes, clearly every website user should have an in-depth understanding of how DOM elements are generated on the browser. Seriously, how can one know how a button is produced on a page without inspecting the underlying source code, or looking at the network traffic on the developer console? Even then, this behavior can be obsfucated in the code, and in order to produce the page to generate the content to inspect, you'v…
You don't need to do that detailed of an analysis. If you see a YouTube video in a website, YouTube knows you saw the video. That simple.
I'm trying to understand what you people that are reacting to this Facebook incident so emotionally actually want done
Do you want logging ip addresses to be banned? Do you want cookies to be banned? Do you want embeddable html to be banned?
Because all I see is outrage without any real suggestions
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, when you're explicitly dealing with patient health data... which is not remotely in Facebook's realm.
Are you sure? "Facebook sent a doctor on a secret mission to ask hospitals to share patient data" https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/facebook-building-8-explored... "Facebook held a special breakfast for drug marketers about recruiting people for clinical trials" https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/07/facebook-held-a-breakfast-to... "How Facebook can ‘unblind’ a clinical trial" https://www.outsourcing-pharma.com/Article/2014/0…
Yes I'm sure, your links don't bring up any new points. Facebook does not have my medical records.
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#24I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely. For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into. When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website…
> If you want to log into a website using Facebook login I don't.
Good for you neither do i. Do you have anything of substance to add?
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#25So Facebook is going with the tu quoque fallacy. Perhaps the others will be in trouble in future too, but sorry Facebook, it's your turn now.
"Look, others are doing it too!"
Which was an argument of my kids when they were five. To which I replied then and I reply now, "That doesn't make it right."
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#26I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely. For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into. When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website…
Agreed, I found Facebook’s explanation perfectly adequate and respectable. They are basically explaining cookies and embeds/iframes to a non-technical audience — no more, no less. It makes sense to give other examples like Google ads and Twitter buttons in this context.
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#28I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely. For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into. When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website…
Agreed, I found Facebook’s explanation perfectly adequate and respectable. They are basically explaining cookies and embeds/iframes to a non-technical audience — no more, no less. It makes sense to give other examples like Google ads and Twitter buttons in this context.
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#30Hopefully, this starts a meaningful conversation about what other people are also doing. I am not a fan of Facebook but this might get the ball rolling on broader legislation similar to GDPR in US.
I really hope nothing remotely similar to gdpr is written into legislation in the US. I do not even know how I would get started writing a website that would adhere to GDPR requirements