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Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely.

For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into.

When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website you are viewing the video on.

This is how the internet works. You cannot access something from someone else's servers without them knowing what your ip address is.

Are we invading people's privacy when we log ip addresses when someone visits a website hosted on our servers now?

Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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post #3

Hopefully, this starts a meaningful conversation about what other people are also doing. I am not a fan of Facebook but this might get the ball rolling on broader legislation similar to GDPR in US.

Under current administration? No.

Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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>That said, other tech companies have gotten off light. Whether it’s because Apple and Google aren’t CEO’d by their founders any more, or we’ve grown to see iOS and Android as such underlying platforms that they aren’t responsible for what third-party developers do, scrutiny has focused on Zuckerberg and Facebook.

Maybe Zuckerberg should do the same thing Larry Page did. Create a parent company for Facebook (maybe call it Library), of which Zuckerberg becomes the CEO. Then find someone else to be the CEO of Facebook. In addition, just like Alphabet and other "Bets", Library could have other "Books".

Then, instead of Zuckerberg CEO of Facebook, you have Zuckerberg CEO of Library.

Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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post #2

I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely. For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into. When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website…

Perhaps the internet must know, but must it remember?

Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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post #6
post #2

I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely. For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into. When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website…

Perhaps the internet must know, but must it remember?

Yes absolutely, how do you think you prevent people from ddosing and how do you think we prevent spam if not with logs?

Also I'm surprised how nobody has mentioned how important this data is for AB testing.

Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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post #2

I feel like whoever wrote this article missed the point completely. For the internet to function, websites need your information. If you want to log into a website using Facebook login, Facebook needs to know what website you are logging into. When you watch a Youtube video on someone else's website, in order for that data to be sent to you they need to know what your IP address is and they need to know what website…

HIPAA has IP addresses listed as one of the unique identifiers you must protect in your dataset.

Re: Facebook points finger at Google and Twitter for data collection

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post #3

Hopefully, this starts a meaningful conversation about what other people are also doing. I am not a fan of Facebook but this might get the ball rolling on broader legislation similar to GDPR in US.

Under current administration? No.

I'm not so sure about that. The current administration can be kind of unpredictable (to understate it a little...), and this seems like exactly the combination of fuck-the-elitists and Trumpian populism that could work. Silicon Valley, culturally speaking, fits pretty clearly into the subculture that Trump set himself up in opposition to, in a way that even finance doesn't (given that the current govt is an uneasy alliance between business conservatives and right wing populism, as mediated by Trump's personal whims).
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