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Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Who wants to open a free-speech based forum site?

Running sites that large, even for something simple, cost a lot of money. Unless it is funded by a wealthy benefactor or publicly funded there is no way that it will every work. It's obviously not a technical problem but a funds problem.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

I've deleted both my YouTube and reddit accounts. I've been trying to de-Google my life, this will probably accelerate that. Just need a proper mobile Linux device and I can finally dump Android.

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This is due to US Section 230 legislation changing this week, spurred by the actions and legal battles of backpage.com https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2018/03/21/59... "The Backpage saga has galvanized lawmakers to act on bills amending Section 230 with the goal of stemming online sex trafficking. The legislation allows more state and civil lawsuits against websites related to online sex trafficking, f…

How does Section 230 relate to banning videos about completely legal firearms accessories?

Section 230 protects against all kinds of collateral and contributory liability that a publisher of information might have, not just direct liability for publishing content that is illegal without regard to context.

Weakening 230 means that online services are closer to needing to treat everything that crosses the platform as the kind of legal risk it would be if it were produced and published directly by the company, considering, including in the worst case of conduct that people might allege it contributed to, with the consideration of how attractive the firm is as a deep pockets piñata for lawsuits where the other side has little to lose and much (even if it is unlikely) to gain.

Which is the whole problem 230 was adopted to solve, but conduct by publishers who were found liable even with 230 in place, proving it doesn't need to be weakened to address the conduct has, nevertheless, provided a pretext for an attack on it.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Great, so /r/gundeals, which was nothing more than a sales aggregator for law-abiding online retailers, is gone, but /r/the_donald, a vile, rampantly bigoted, conspiracy-theory-peddling shithole, is allowed to stay?

This sweep seems to have had a very narrow focus on facilitating sales. r/darknetmarketnoobs was allowed to stay[1] even though it's intimately related to r/darknetmarkets, which was banned, because they have been careful to push most market discussion to the latter sub.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs/comments/8641hg...

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Great, so /r/gundeals, which was nothing more than a sales aggregator for law-abiding online retailers, is gone, but /r/the_donald, a vile, rampantly bigoted, conspiracy-theory-peddling shithole, is allowed to stay?

You added "law-abiding". How do you know this?

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

I'm not a gun owner. Indeed I'm very much opposed to people being able to own guns and hope that someday they will be banned in the U.S. I do understand your perspective and why this is upsetting to you.

For me I see it as a step toward people being more anti-gun ownership. Societies evolve and social views change. Our views on marijuana, smoking, etc. have changed over the decades. I hope I am now seeing the beginning of the end of acceptance of gun ownership.

While we are on opposite sides of this issue I encourage you to continue to stand up for your rights and fight for what you believe in. Let Reddit and Youtube know you are upset about this. Be active and vigilant. I will too.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn’t that YC’er get expelled from the Ycombinator community for harassing other founders with alt-right slurs?

What makes a slur specifically "alt-right"?

Cuck is invented/re-invented by alt-righters.

"As linguist Mark Liberman explained on Language Log, cuck “was extended figuratively on 4chan to reference ‘relinquished manliness’ and more abstractly ‘selling out, abandoning principles.’”"

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