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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by jarym »

valuearb wrote: post #16
jarym wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can guess - as the corporation grew its culture changed. I bet management are so focussed on their big bets (Apple TV, movie streaming, iWatch, iPad) and enhancing their cash cow (iPhone) that they are totally not focussed on the 'mature and slow growth' areas of the business (Mac). This will undoubtedly bite them in the ass - it already did with the 2013 Mac Pro, the mediocre MBP with TouchBar and on the poor rela…

The mediocre MBP with touchbar is the best selling MBP ever.

So what? Windows had been the best selling Operating System for a great many years. It turned into a pile of turd and continued to be the best selling OS.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by JD557 »

christoph wrote: post #11
jarym wrote: post #4

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Have to agree, my biggest concern for putting it off was APFS so I waited until no one complained about it for long enough thinking 'everything else should still be ok' - big mistake. Stay away until Schiller praises the 'stability' release at 2018 Developer Conference.

I think it’s APFS that’s the cause of my biggest frustration, but I’ve not seen anyone else complain about. I normally run with about 50gb free space. After three to four days, I’m normally down to about 3gb and nothing will get it to show back up, other than a reboot. I’ve even run a test which supports this - downloaded 35gb of files, deleted them and emptied the trash. Same thing... space is missing till I reboot.

Do you have the Time Machine enabled?

I also have this problem in Sierra. If my Time Machine HDD is not connected, it stores the backups locally.

I can only reclaim space if I disable the Time Machine and restart my mac.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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EGreg wrote: post #9

Can we have a conversation about how it can be that Apple, which used to proudly advertise on "It Just Works", is sitting on billions of dollars in cash AND YET, at the same time, iOS and MacOS experience some major regressions with every new release? I mean, Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX user satisfaction and usability. Steve Jobs would be rolling around in his grave. Ever since the "skeumorphism" debate,…

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Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by nxc18 »

EGreg wrote: post #9

Can we have a conversation about how it can be that Apple, which used to proudly advertise on "It Just Works", is sitting on billions of dollars in cash AND YET, at the same time, iOS and MacOS experience some major regressions with every new release? I mean, Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX user satisfaction and usability. Steve Jobs would be rolling around in his grave. Ever since the "skeumorphism" debate,…

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Apple clearly has a quality problem and they also are fortunate enough to have billions of dollars of cash with which to fix it.

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by newscracker »

EGreg wrote: post #9

Can we have a conversation about how it can be that Apple, which used to proudly advertise on "It Just Works", is sitting on billions of dollars in cash AND YET, at the same time, iOS and MacOS experience some major regressions with every new release? I mean, Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX user satisfaction and usability. Steve Jobs would be rolling around in his grave. Ever since the "skeumorphism" debate,…

I personally don't think "Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX satisfaction and usability" in all areas. In services like Maps and a few others, yes, Google was far ahead for a long time and has maintained its lead. On smartphone UI/UX, it's highly subjective, and there's no clear winner there. On desktop OS, it's not an easy comparison since Google doesn't have an equivalent to macOS. But I do agree that the "It just works" slogan can no longer be applied to Apple, due to multiple software related annoyances and experiences that, more than a decade ago, I would've associated only with Windows.

The main reason why Apple, with billions of dollars in cash, is unable to establish itself as a leader as well as isn't doing even close to some other mediocre companies is because of its organization structure. Apple's structure doesn't allow having enough people to work on multiple things simultaneously and spread its attention. A much detailed explanation of this is on this article on Stratechery, titled "Apple's Organizational Crossroads". [1] It would do well for Apple's leadership to make changes in how it works, but so far there's not much evidence of anything like that happening on the software front.

[1]: https://stratechery.com/2016/apples-organizational-crossroad...

Re: High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

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Post by sccxy »

For me it is impossible to get updates for High Sierra.

App Store is not working and manual install is impossible. It tells my Macbook Air has Fusion drive which is incompatible with latest High Sierra.

No Macbook Air has ever got Fusion drive..

Waiting for some free time to reinstall macOS.

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