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Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

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Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#21
Worth every penny -Spanish/Portuguese Iberico ham is sensational, melts in your mouth whilst bursting with flavour. As good as the best: Japanese Tuna Sashimi, Scottish grass fed Rib Eye steak, Iclandic Cod, US CheeseBurger, Bordeaux Wine, Thai Dom Yum Goong, Indian Tandori Chicken, Chineese Peeking Duck, Berlin Curryworst, Portuguese Custard Tart, Italian Margarita Pizza, French Butter Croissants or even Mcdonald’s French Fries!

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#22

No one HAS to sell to Chinese markets.

When you HAVE to pay your debts/working capital off you HAVE to sell as much as you can to whoever buys it and pays the most.

These type of comments really get me off. It is so ignorant of people who work under different circumstances than in tech.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#23

It is already very expensive outside Spain. A similar, more affordable ham is Jamón Serrano.

Note that "serrano" is not as strictly protected as a term as ibérico, which needs to confirm to the rules of the Denominación de Origen [1]. Only a handful of serrano brands are D. O. (and will be clearly marked as such on the packaging), and the stuff sold in American supermarkets, for example, generally aren't among those brands. That doesn't mean that you can't find good, cheap "plain" serrano, of course.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denominaci%C3%B3n_de_Origen

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#24
post #4

The salient part was that it takes five acres per swine. They only have two hinds each... And they can only raise them in two areas of Spain. Seems production is pretty constrained by resources (in this case land with oak trees). That combined with 48-mo curing makes it hard to scale up. And we used to complain about almond production consuming too many resources (water) per output...

There's lots of ham on the market that's produced without letting the swine forage in the foods, and/or with brief curing. It's cheaper than the top-quality stuff, too.

Changing the production of the top-quality ham to match that of cheaper ham doesn't really solve anything. It just fools customers until they learn.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#25
post #20

> But demand is now threatening to outstrip supply Why isn’t the price being adjusted?

That's a very good question. When supply is limited and demand rises, you adjust the price accordingly.

Particularly for a luxury good... Something about this story doesn’t smell right.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#26

Worth every penny -Spanish/Portuguese Iberico ham is sensational, melts in your mouth whilst bursting with flavour. As good as the best: Japanese Tuna Sashimi, Scottish grass fed Rib Eye steak, Iclandic Cod, US CheeseBurger, Bordeaux Wine, Thai Dom Yum Goong, Indian Tandori Chicken, Chineese Peeking Duck, Berlin Curryworst, Portuguese Custard Tart, Italian Margarita Pizza, French Butter Croissants or even Mcdonald’s…

Two Spanish brothers are trying to make their own jamón in Texas. Acornseekers.com

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#27
This is actually good - we want China as integrated in the world economy as possible and we definitely want them to spend and open up to outside influences, including culinary. The world (and even China itself) doesn't need another Qing period.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#28
post #5

Besides this ham, evidently Chinese demand has been blamed for the global shortage of avocados [0] and the lack of butter in France [1]. I've personally most noticed the effect when it comes to wide-release movies, in which the heroes manage to find some reason to end up for a brief scene in China, or to use Chinese brand products -- Civil War, Transformers, and Robocop come to mind. There's also the suspicion that A…

If The Great Wall (starring Matt Damon) is any indication, be prepared for a near future where Chinese blockbusters will compete against Hollywood blockbusters for audiences.

China is the only movie market which can afford the same budgets as Hollywood. The storytelling and CGI isn't quite there yet but it will be - it's a matter of when, not if.

As a neutral third party, I'm pretty excited to see this clash of east-west ideas

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#29

No one HAS to sell to Chinese markets.

No idea what you mean. No one needs to sell to Chinese markets for Chinese to buy the product. We are in the WTO, so a Chinese importer comes, buys at market price, and pays tariffs. Exactly as western people buy things in the international market.

OP actually gets the point. Chinese consumers are not aware of those foods until very recently, and their interests are likely cultivated by the corresponding oversea industry intentionally.

So why blame China for the shortage when the western countries are the ones create the demand in the first place? I guess it is a convenient strategy to hike the price while swiftly shift the blame to something people already dislike, after all it fits the narrative.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#30
post #5

Besides this ham, evidently Chinese demand has been blamed for the global shortage of avocados [0] and the lack of butter in France [1]. I've personally most noticed the effect when it comes to wide-release movies, in which the heroes manage to find some reason to end up for a brief scene in China, or to use Chinese brand products -- Civil War, Transformers, and Robocop come to mind. There's also the suspicion that A…

If The Great Wall (starring Matt Damon) is any indication, be prepared for a near future where Chinese blockbusters will compete against Hollywood blockbusters for audiences. China is the only movie market which can afford the same budgets as Hollywood. The storytelling and CGI isn't quite there yet but it will be - it's a matter of when, not if. As a neutral third party, I'm pretty excited to see this clash of east-…

The storytelling (...) isn't quite there yet

Funny comment, since the story and screenplay writers are actually Americans :)

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