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Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

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Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#11
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Someone is facing a ham shortage?

A shortage of one very specific, high end, type of ham, yes. Similar to "wagyu beef"...brand/status/scarcity.

Will this come to the United States? If so, we better get ready as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NC6iRwe9ns

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#12
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A shortage of one very specific, high end, type of ham, yes. Similar to "wagyu beef"...brand/status/scarcity.

Will this come to the United States? If so, we better get ready as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NC6iRwe9ns

It's a specific type of luxury ham produced in Spain (ergo the name "Iberian ham"). Since you didn't even know what this product was beforehand you have nothing to get ready for, it won't affect you.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#13
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't lower density animal production a good thing?

Well, moderation, as they say. In this case vast amounts of land are used to produce little product. Not sure how efficient it is. It suffers from "scalability" which kinda results in scarcity and then perception. I understand wanting free range --but this is an artificial diet constrained to grasses and acorns --swine usually are omnivorous and would eat more, but this ham requires only those two --so they must dedi…

And isn't it otherwise just wild habitat?

People have strange priorities, or, to put it differently, people seem to not want any resources used for farming regardless of how it's used.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#16

No one HAS to sell to Chinese markets.

No idea what you mean.

No one needs to sell to Chinese markets for Chinese to buy the product. We are in the WTO, so a Chinese importer comes, buys at market price, and pays tariffs.

Exactly as western people buy things in the international market.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will this come to the United States? If so, we better get ready as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NC6iRwe9ns

It's a specific type of luxury ham produced in Spain (ergo the name "Iberian ham"). Since you didn't even know what this product was beforehand you have nothing to get ready for, it won't affect you.

Luxury ham? Now I'm getting it.

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

#18
post #9
post #5

Besides this ham, evidently Chinese demand has been blamed for the global shortage of avocados [0] and the lack of butter in France [1]. I've personally most noticed the effect when it comes to wide-release movies, in which the heroes manage to find some reason to end up for a brief scene in China, or to use Chinese brand products -- Civil War, Transformers, and Robocop come to mind. There's also the suspicion that A…

Only 20 foreign movies are allowed into China per year. Unless part of the movie takes place in China. Lots of movies have a special cut, just for that reason.

Modern blockbuster movies are already plagued with hectic editing and an overabundance of excuses-for-people-to-be-making-a-helicopter-landing. But some of the Chinese scenes/collaboration have worked out nicely. I can't be the only American ignorant of Chinese cityscapes. The Shanghai scene in "Skyfall" was one of the most movie's visually memorable images. Maybe "Pacific Rim"'s latter half would have taken place in Hong Kong without concern about the Chinese market (its title is Pacific Rim, after all, and a movie about robots beating monsters has a lot of freedom to be in contrived places). But apparently its popularity at the Chinese box office helped pave the way for a sequel, despite its disappointing receipts in the U.S. https://qz.com/110683/pacific-rim-trashed-hong-kong-but-won-...

Re: Spaniards face ham shortage as Chinese market gets taste for jamón ibérico

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Besides this ham, evidently Chinese demand has been blamed for the global shortage of avocados [0] and the lack of butter in France [1]. I've personally most noticed the effect when it comes to wide-release movies, in which the heroes manage to find some reason to end up for a brief scene in China, or to use Chinese brand products -- Civil War, Transformers, and Robocop come to mind. There's also the suspicion that A…

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