"...my mother told me she thought he’d known he was having heart attacks but chose to ignore them as a way of killing himself. This, I think, is putting an overly heroic sheen on it, but the interpretation doesn’t surprise me. My mother worshiped my father, and there’s something noble about a slow, plausibly deniable suicide. " I find it to be an extreme form of cowardice. I had a couple of close family members who a…
My Father the Werewolf
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#22The subject's eventual death was natural, although arguably early, so from a ceratin point of view, maybe the treatment was at least clinically successful in warding off suicide proper.
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#23tl;dr ECT was used as an extreme form of treatment for major depression that had short term benefits, but ultimately resulted in a renewed version the same depressed person with damaged long-term memories, who ultimately relapsed into a depression with no obvious emotional or intellectual cause. The subject's eventual death was natural, although arguably early, so from a ceratin point of view, maybe the treatment was…
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#24tl;dr ECT was used as an extreme form of treatment for major depression that had short term benefits, but ultimately resulted in a renewed version the same depressed person with damaged long-term memories, who ultimately relapsed into a depression with no obvious emotional or intellectual cause. The subject's eventual death was natural, although arguably early, so from a ceratin point of view, maybe the treatment was…
The article deals with a lot of stuff apart from the clinical aspects of diagnosis and treatment. For example, it outlines someone who lost social connections as he grew older, a major causal factor in depression.
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#25I don't have the same issues as the author's father, but I've often thought of almost exactly this analogy when treating my own issues. The idea sometimes is to make the condition tolerable, and at least for me, that would be the first order of business upon learning I was a werewolf: to remove my ability to harm others while wolf-ified. This is a tremendous article, I love it and I'm going to save it and maybe read it with my dad - not because my dad is like your dad, OP, but more because a few of your experiences line up really well with a few of ours. I'll read it with my wife too, because the story of how you remember your dad when you were young - I want to be that kind of Dad to my son. So, so, so much. Except without the later issues and whatnot. I do wonder just how possible it is, but I intend to give it a shot! :)
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hijacking this to say-- this was beautiful, such an intense and satisfying introspection. Although, the hopelessness in this: "As for depression, it’s the chasm that exists between. You build your bridge, don’t look down, and pray it never swallows you, because if it does, you’ll fall forever in that bottomless gulf, and die without ever landing." I know you don't believe it's impossible to climb out of depression...…
Thank you so much for your kind words. I'm glad you found my Dad's story moving. Like a lot of things with mental illness, I think the truth about whether depression is beatable or not is more complicated than many people's narratives let it be. It's proven that depression is cased by a combination of environmental and chemical factors, but who can say where the one begins, and the other ends? When I was growing up,…
One of my semi-secrets is that my family's struggles with Depression led me to study Neuroscience in college after almost completing a degree in German Literature. I am literally the only one of 5 siblings and my mother not to be on depression medication for at least some period of my life - I like to joke that I vampire-drained the happiness out of them and caught ADHD in doing so. I don't share that joke with them. My father is not the sort of person who would admit to depression ever, and I therefore don't know his feelings on the subject.
In other words, I quit my other program to search for the silver bullet. I knew from the start that the silver bullet is as great a fantasy as the werewolf itself, but I mourn so much for those who experience little to no improvement from our current medicines - these are the weapons I would arm people with as they fight their inner demons, no guarantee of success, but no small boon in their battle, either! Yet some people's demons clearly experience as much effect from my offered armaments as they would from a giant tickling feather - and it is to their especial detriment, because others, even doctors, seldom have understanding of their particular demon's resistance to their usual solid steel.
Someday, that holy mystery your dad recited about the brain will be as much as thing of the past as geocentrism, or so I tell myself, and so I hope, but for now, all I can do is keep fighting, I hope you're able to continue your fight with at least moderate success, as well. Of note, in my judgment, which I know is not worth much - what a laugh after all, a stranger's judgment on the internet - it seems to me that despite everything, you are doing a bang up job fighting your battle, and I hope it continues to go so well, with as few lost months and hopeless weeks or years as possible, and also, it seems to me that your Dad must have done a reasonably good job fighting his battles, as well, and I hope I am neither offensive nor cruel in saying so. It's just, it's always so difficult to judge someone, your mention about Bruce's friend who murdered his parents is quite excellent, because that question troubles and comforts many minds: Not only do I wish I were so much more, but what exactly would I be if I were so much less than I am? A murderer or serial killers? A bomber? An abusive spouse and parent? With great faith that we're not living up to our potential, staring down in the opposite direction of our potential can be harrowing but in its way, darkly comforting, even if its a sort of stupid comfort (at least, in my head and heart, I can't really claim it as a resounding accolade that "At least I wasn't a school shooter!" - yet sometimes, I just have to sit back and say it in my mind, and be thankful that I haven't gone to that extreme. It seems to me that your werewolf did a reasonable job of not eating you or your mom, even if he still wounded you with his claws over the course of his life, and I guess I wanted to offer his memory that praise).
Forgive my rambling diatribe, still lots of reflection to do on your piece, I hope you have a wonderful day. :)
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since you're the editor, perhaps you could correct the caption on the last photo showing your Dad's friend John. "Left to Right" obviously doesn't apply to that photo.
That's ME John, not my Dad's friend John. But yes, changing now to be clearer! Thank you!
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#28"...my mother told me she thought he’d known he was having heart attacks but chose to ignore them as a way of killing himself. This, I think, is putting an overly heroic sheen on it, but the interpretation doesn’t surprise me. My mother worshiped my father, and there’s something noble about a slow, plausibly deniable suicide. " I find it to be an extreme form of cowardice. I had a couple of close family members who a…
I liked the part where you call people suffering from mental illness "cowards". The part where you blithely assert some millennia-old facile philosophy can solve depression was pretty good, too.
1. It takes courage to take the blows life gives you and keep going, ("Do it for her" photo) 2. It takes courage to actively take your life, hurt yourself physically 3. It _doesn't_ take any courage to just let yourself go and fade away
I've had close family members 2 and 3
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#29I remember feeling like that. Having a good day, or starting to emerge from a particularly deep low, suddenly you feel more intensely, and you're doing more, and you see all the lost potential of the previous days. One of the nice numbing things about depression is that nothing seems possible. You can see the difference between what's possible for you and what's possible for other people, and it's humiliating, but the idea that you could do better is a dead one with no emotional potency. Then your depression lifts a little bit, and you look back with the perspective of a slightly higher capacity to perform, and it's crushing to see the time and possibilities you wasted. It's like depression holds a little back so it can hit you one more time in the gut on the way out, to remind you that it will be back.
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#30"...my mother told me she thought he’d known he was having heart attacks but chose to ignore them as a way of killing himself. This, I think, is putting an overly heroic sheen on it, but the interpretation doesn’t surprise me. My mother worshiped my father, and there’s something noble about a slow, plausibly deniable suicide. " I find it to be an extreme form of cowardice. I had a couple of close family members who a…