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Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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If it's true that Chrome on Oreo genuinely prevents picture-in-picture for YouTube specifically , that's a troubling precedent to set. Why not allow all websites to enable/disable PiP (maybe via a meta tag, in the way that tab theme colours already work)? If I query https://m.youtube.com while emulating a Nexus 5X, the response contains: Is that what is preventing PiP on YouTube or is it some sort of underhanded inte…

Shared below too.

Just as a quick point and I will drop it in the article comments too. I'm the lead for our Chrome Developer Relations team.

Chrome doesn't disable picture in picture for Youtube, Youtube disable it in Chrome. They listen to resize events iirc and then exit fullscreen mode (the only way to currently get to pip mode in Chrome).

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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post #21

If it's true that Chrome on Oreo genuinely prevents picture-in-picture for YouTube specifically , that's a troubling precedent to set. Why not allow all websites to enable/disable PiP (maybe via a meta tag, in the way that tab theme colours already work)? If I query https://m.youtube.com while emulating a Nexus 5X, the response contains: Is that what is preventing PiP on YouTube or is it some sort of underhanded inte…

Shared below too. Just as a quick point and I will drop it in the article comments too. I'm the lead for our Chrome Developer Relations team. Chrome doesn't disable picture in picture for Youtube, Youtube disable it in Chrome. They listen to resize events iirc and then exit fullscreen mode (the only way to currently get to pip mode in Chrome).

That's interesting, and a relief.

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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post #18

The music notifications with colours chosen from the artwork is really nice. Does anyone know much about the method behind this?

I'm guessing they are using the Palette class from the support libs to extract the colors from the artwork: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v7/g...

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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post #3

Keeping my fingers crossed that Project Treble is the real deal and would actually make it possible for a "generic AOSP image" to be installed on virtually any mobile device that came with Android. That's the dream, isn't it? But I think we've been burned too many times by Google's promises to "make it easier" for OEMs to update devices and other such promises, or at least these projects always sounded much better th…

Is Project Treble "backwards compatible" with old models? If so I hope it will work out for Fairphone users, especially the first model which is doesn't receive as much support as the Fairphone 2

Not backwards compatible mostly this has seperated the hardware drivers from the os itself but unless the device system partition is repatitioned and the drivers been provided by the hardware manufacturer old phones won't get updated any time soon. Mostly the newer phones that are released with Android O will have the ability to update to the latest version of Android missing a few things that your phone doesn't support like iOS does with older iPhones even if the Oem no longer procides updates..

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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If it's true that Chrome on Oreo genuinely prevents picture-in-picture for YouTube specifically , that's a troubling precedent to set. Why not allow all websites to enable/disable PiP (maybe via a meta tag, in the way that tab theme colours already work)? If I query https://m.youtube.com while emulating a Nexus 5X, the response contains: Is that what is preventing PiP on YouTube or is it some sort of underhanded inte…

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Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shared below too. Just as a quick point and I will drop it in the article comments too. I'm the lead for our Chrome Developer Relations team. Chrome doesn't disable picture in picture for Youtube, Youtube disable it in Chrome. They listen to resize events iirc and then exit fullscreen mode (the only way to currently get to pip mode in Chrome).

That's interesting, and a relief.

If you are interested, there is also a spec under development at the moment to make it more explicit - https://wicg.github.io/picture-in-picture/

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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If it's true that Chrome on Oreo genuinely prevents picture-in-picture for YouTube specifically , that's a troubling precedent to set. Why not allow all websites to enable/disable PiP (maybe via a meta tag, in the way that tab theme colours already work)? If I query https://m.youtube.com while emulating a Nexus 5X, the response contains: Is that what is preventing PiP on YouTube or is it some sort of underhanded inte…

Responsive Web Design (RWD) is a Web development concept focusing on making sites look and behave optimally on all personal computing devices, from desktop to mobile. [1]

The viewport meta tag is part of what makes RWD possible. [2] The viewport meta tag does not relate to PiP in any way that I can imagine.

[1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Responsive...

[2]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Mobile/View...

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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post #20

After my Pixel updated recently to Oreo, being frustrated by a constant notification for Twilight (a red-tinting background app) and starting to search on google for a solution -- I discovered quite a lot of people have been asking 'how to suppress notifications on oreo' recently. FWIW you can control the notification snooze timeout, but you're going to need Tasker [1] (or similar). Interestingly I evidently bought t…

Oreo actually broke Twilight on non-Pixel devices, I'm surprised it still works for you, I guess Twilight can access the night mode driver.

I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about this.

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

#30
Can anyone confirm if they brought back the ability to select a wifi/Bluetooth connection via a drop-down from the swipe down option? You know, without having to click and go into the screen to select the device you want to connect to.
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