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Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by lukepothier »

If it's true that Chrome on Oreo genuinely prevents picture-in-picture for YouTube specifically, that's a troubling precedent to set. Why not allow all websites to enable/disable PiP (maybe via a meta tag, in the way that tab theme colours already work)? If I query https://m.youtube.com while emulating a Nexus 5X, the response contains:
Is that what is preventing PiP on YouTube or is it some sort of underhanded inter-Google arrangement between Chrome and YouTube?

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by oelmekki »

mhogomchungu wrote: post #9
oelmekki wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you care to explain why? (provided that when we speak of battery life, we mean how much time it can go without recharging, and not after how many years you have to change it)

How do you measure battery life? 1. Do you charge it to 100% and live it alone until charge goes to 0%? 2. Do you unplug it in the morning and use it "normally" and see what charge will be left when you put it again on a charger when you go to sleep? Different use cases drains battery at a different rate and its hard to use a new phone/a phone with a new OS "normally" because more time than usual will go into trying…

I have a daily routine, always charging my phone at the same time, always using it at the same time. If after an update I notice the day after my battery is drained one hour before the usual time, it sounds pretty safe to assume the update did something regarding it.

But I won't decide I know for sure it's a problem for everybody, obviously (which doesn't mean either it isn't).

EDIT: but as philjohn mentioned, you can expect to use your phone more after an update (especially a major release) to try new features and because of renewed interest.

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by philjohn »

oelmekki wrote: post #7
bostand wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop that! You cannot judge battery life after only a few days, specially after an update.

Would you care to explain why? (provided that when we speak of battery life, we mean how much time it can go without recharging, and not after how many years you have to change it)

Because when you install a new OS there's things that are optimized in the background, and you also tend to use it more because of the "new and shiny" factor.

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by rovek »

haddr wrote: post #12

Quick comment on notifications: it seems that Android has really worked them out nicely. Now I even more prefer Android notifications to iPhone notifications.

Confirm dismissal of a notification is one of my biggest of myriad gripes with atrocious iOS design after 4 months.

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by oelmekki »

philjohn wrote: post #14
oelmekki wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you care to explain why? (provided that when we speak of battery life, we mean how much time it can go without recharging, and not after how many years you have to change it)

Because when you install a new OS there's things that are optimized in the background, and you also tend to use it more because of the "new and shiny" factor.

Sounds legit, thanks for explaining.

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by kinlan »

awjr wrote: post #5

The summary from page 9 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-tho... The Good Project Treble isn't a silver bullet for Android's update problems, but it's the first time in a long time Google has changed Android to make system update development easier. I love the smaller "by the way" notification section. It really cleans up the notification panel, while still letting the user read less-important…

Just as a quick point and I will drop it in the article comments too. I'm the lead for our Chrome Developer Relations team.

Chrome doesn't disable picture in picture for Youtube, Youtube disable it in Chrome. They listen to resize events iirc and then exit fullscreen mode (the only way to currently get to pip mode in Chrome).

Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed

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Post by Jedd »

After my Pixel updated recently to Oreo, being frustrated by a constant notification for Twilight (a red-tinting background app) and starting to search on google for a solution -- I discovered quite a lot of people have been asking 'how to suppress notifications on oreo' recently.

FWIW you can control the notification snooze timeout, but you're going to need Tasker [1] (or similar). Interestingly I evidently bought this several years ago - can't remember why - and haven't installed it on at least the last two phones, since some version of Android a few years ago shipped with whatever native functionality Tasker used to provide for me.

[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch....

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