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Eating Clean is Useless

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Re: Eating Clean is Useless

#21
This article seems to be making the implicit claim that "clean eating" refers to eating organic products. On the other hand, I've always understood the expression to just mean eating healthy, especially including plenty of vegetables. Has the meaning changed or have I just always misunderstood it?

Re: Eating Clean is Useless

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post #11

I am sorry but GMO is actually bad for you.... Monsanto tried to spread gmo corn in France, they tested it on rats for a year and the rats developed multiple tumors the size of an egg.

I assume you are referring to this article[1]? Looks like there were numerous issues with it and it was retracted by the journal it was published in.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9ralini_affair

Re: Eating Clean is Useless

#23
post #3

Non-GMO and organic is mostly BS of course, but it's a fact that refined carbs are cheap and plentiful, so the poor consume proportionally more of them. They simply can't afford fruit and meat. This is in part because of the infinite shelf life of processed carbs, and in part because they're heavily subsidized by the government. Also, government dietary guidelines still push people towards relatively high carb diets,…

> snacking is encouraged from kindergarten and up, causing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes.

It's not snacking that is causing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. Snacking is good if you eat healthy snacks.

Re: Eating Clean is Useless

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To me "eating clean" means eating mostly vegetables by volume and mostly fat and protein by weight. For instance typical ketogenic/paleo diet. Eating "dirty" is theoretically doable. If one prototypical example of eating "dirty" is having a standard supermarket cake slice or mound of cereal and milk to fulfill daily caloric needs, then it is actually harder to maintain a "dirty" diet. Satiety becomes an unattainable…

"Eating dirty is theoretically possible".

I think you mean "hypothetically", unless you have some references to scientific research?

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post #5
post #3

Non-GMO and organic is mostly BS of course, but it's a fact that refined carbs are cheap and plentiful, so the poor consume proportionally more of them. They simply can't afford fruit and meat. This is in part because of the infinite shelf life of processed carbs, and in part because they're heavily subsidized by the government. Also, government dietary guidelines still push people towards relatively high carb diets,…

snacking is bad? I thought it was good for your metabolism.

Not really:

https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/perils-snacking-hormo...

Re: Eating Clean is Useless

#29
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes the fructose in your (selected for top sweetness over hundreds of generations) apricot so different from the fructose in the sucrose of your Snickers bar?

The fiber and polyphenols in the whole fruit modulate the uptake of fructose in the gut.

Except that it has been selected over centuries for minimal fiber content.

Quick Google search: apricots and Snickers both have 2% fiber content.

Re: Eating Clean is Useless

#30
This article smacks of narrow-minded contrarianism for its own sake.

The cheapest thing one can do -- and healthier than the option of eating Lucky Charms daily -- is to grow one's own food. The space requirements are actually tiny -- it's possible to grow all of one's own veggies in something like 300 sq ft of space (in a mid-latitude region) and all one's own calories in something like 800 sq ft of space. It's cheaper to do it without sprays too, so you end up organic by default. I'd recommend interested folks check out ... Grow More Vegetables ... by John Jeavons and One Circle by David Duhon for how to do space-efficient veggie gardening.

Edited to add: I should have mentioned: I'm opposed to the fad diets that the article is attacking as much as I am to the contrarian posture the article takes. Growing food and eating it, and eating a variety of such homegrown foods with a mix of other things, seems sensible to me, and it's also cheaper than either highly-processed industrial food products or fad-oriented yuppie foods.

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