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Eating Clean is Useless

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Re: Eating Clean is Useless

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To me "eating clean" means eating mostly vegetables by volume and mostly fat and protein by weight. For instance typical ketogenic/paleo diet. Eating "dirty" is theoretically doable. If one prototypical example of eating "dirty" is having a standard supermarket cake slice or mound of cereal and milk to fulfill daily caloric needs, then it is actually harder to maintain a "dirty" diet. Satiety becomes an unattainable goal. We simply cannot handle the insulin spikes well. We get hungry and cravings are more intense with such a diet. It is essentially impractical. It may also explain why there are so many obese in the world. "Eating clean" can be used as a marketing term to get people to fork over huge bucks for an oversold concept. But fundamentally, "eating clean" the way I define it is very cheap, tasty, and pragmatic. Especially for losing weight and maintaining a low weight.

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Non-GMO and organic is mostly BS of course, but it's a fact that refined carbs are cheap and plentiful, so the poor consume proportionally more of them. They simply can't afford fruit and meat. This is in part because of the infinite shelf life of processed carbs, and in part because they're heavily subsidized by the government. Also, government dietary guidelines still push people towards relatively high carb diets, and snacking is encouraged from kindergarten and up, causing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. The point being, the nutritional situation in the US is a clusterfuck, and GMO and organic stuff are kind of orthogonal to rectifying it.

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Non-GMO and organic is mostly BS of course, but it's a fact that refined carbs are cheap and plentiful, so the poor consume proportionally more of them. They simply can't afford fruit and meat. This is in part because of the infinite shelf life of processed carbs, and in part because they're heavily subsidized by the government. Also, government dietary guidelines still push people towards relatively high carb diets,…

snacking is bad? I thought it was good for your metabolism.

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Non-GMO and organic is mostly BS of course, but it's a fact that refined carbs are cheap and plentiful, so the poor consume proportionally more of them. They simply can't afford fruit and meat. This is in part because of the infinite shelf life of processed carbs, and in part because they're heavily subsidized by the government. Also, government dietary guidelines still push people towards relatively high carb diets,…

snacking is bad? I thought it was good for your metabolism.

If you mean nut, walnut, or apricot as snack: it's good. But Snickers is definitely not.

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The most appealing benefits of organic foods, in my household, are not to do with our own health. Instead, we adopt the practice under the information that organic farming is more sustainable and better for the environment. Top three search results for "organic food better for environment."

http://www.fao.org/organicag/oa-faq/oa-faq6/en/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/is-organic-agr...

http://www.thechicecologist.com/green-living/food-drink/is-o...

Regarding it being a "rich [white] people thing," either way, that may very well be, in practice. Is caring about sustainable farming and the environmental impact of our savage resouce consumption also a rich white people thing?

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Non-GMO and organic is mostly BS of course, but it's a fact that refined carbs are cheap and plentiful, so the poor consume proportionally more of them. They simply can't afford fruit and meat. This is in part because of the infinite shelf life of processed carbs, and in part because they're heavily subsidized by the government. Also, government dietary guidelines still push people towards relatively high carb diets,…

snacking is bad? I thought it was good for your metabolism.

Look up intermittent fasting

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snacking is bad? I thought it was good for your metabolism.

If you mean nut, walnut, or apricot as snack: it's good. But Snickers is definitely not.

What makes the fructose in your (selected for top sweetness over hundreds of generations) apricot so different from the fructose in the sucrose of your Snickers bar?
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