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Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by gtirloni »

Perceptes wrote: post #8
hueving wrote: post #2

And it begins. The birth of a company with a direct conflict of interest in making Kubernetes so simple to use/administer that you don't need to pay another company for 'enterprise support'. This happens quite frequently with open source infrastructure. Keep an eye on them to push back against improvements that directly conflict with their company's "enterprise sauce".

Note that this is just some people who helped start the project when they were at Google, and both of them have since left. Kubernetes is managed by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, and a very large number of companies are involved in managing the project's direction with an open governance model. There are diverse enough interests already that there isn't really any risk of one company's interests driving the…

Like OpenStack?

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by josh2600 »

gtirloni wrote: post #21
Perceptes wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that this is just some people who helped start the project when they were at Google, and both of them have since left. Kubernetes is managed by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, and a very large number of companies are involved in managing the project's direction with an open governance model. There are diverse enough interests already that there isn't really any risk of one company's interests driving the…

Like OpenStack?

God, I don't think I've ever groaned audibly while reading a comment like this before on HN. It's totally correct and true and apt, but I hope it's wrong over the long term.

I'm hopeful k8 won't go the way of openstack because the problem domain is simpler and more well defined, but I'll be damned if I ever believe a "diverse" group of enterprises with shared interests can reliably produce good software.

Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on the standards committee.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by stonith »

gtirloni wrote: post #21
Perceptes wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that this is just some people who helped start the project when they were at Google, and both of them have since left. Kubernetes is managed by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, and a very large number of companies are involved in managing the project's direction with an open governance model. There are diverse enough interests already that there isn't really any risk of one company's interests driving the…

Like OpenStack?

K8s has a significantly more solid base today than OpenStack did upon its public release by NASA. It was barely functional, and gained the ascendency by virtue of Eucalyptus somehow managing to be even worse.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by jondubois »

hueving wrote: post #2

And it begins. The birth of a company with a direct conflict of interest in making Kubernetes so simple to use/administer that you don't need to pay another company for 'enterprise support'. This happens quite frequently with open source infrastructure. Keep an eye on them to push back against improvements that directly conflict with their company's "enterprise sauce".

Kubernetes will help reduce the number of engineers needed to maintain large systems. This is the beginning of the end for the DevOps engineering career - There will still be DevOps jobs left but they won't pay as much.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by brazzledazzle »

josh2600 wrote: post #23
gtirloni wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like OpenStack?

God, I don't think I've ever groaned audibly while reading a comment like this before on HN. It's totally correct and true and apt, but I hope it's wrong over the long term. I'm hopeful k8 won't go the way of openstack because the problem domain is simpler and more well defined, but I'll be damned if I ever believe a "diverse" group of enterprises with shared interests can reliably produce good software. Fool me once…

I feel like openstack will end up being the subject of an interesting book that will explore all the ways it ended up screwing itself despite (or perhaps because of) corporate sponsorhip.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by fnord123 »

BenTheElder wrote: post #18
willsher wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I though of seven. Is there any significance to the number one Kubernetes?

Yes, the previous projects preceding Kubernetes have a history of being Star Trek references, specifically to the Borg [1]. As to Heptio’s name, Beda explained: “When we were helping create Kubernetes, we pitched it as ‘Seven of Nine,’ a ‘Star Trek: Voyager’ character who’s a former Borg drone. That was a reference to the Borg, a code name for Google’s internal version of Kubernetes, the thing that runs its search an…

If they wanted to keep the reference to seven and make it relevant to containers they could have named it "whatsinthebox"

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by manojlds »

erikb wrote: post #20

Isn't Kubernetes used 100% at Google, IBM etc? Isn't that already Enterprise? What is the market Heptio is targetting here?

Kubernetes is not used by Google. They have a whole different system - Borg and Omega.

Google Cloud does offer hosted k8s though.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by praveenster »

gtirloni wrote: post #21
Perceptes wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that this is just some people who helped start the project when they were at Google, and both of them have since left. Kubernetes is managed by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, and a very large number of companies are involved in managing the project's direction with an open governance model. There are diverse enough interests already that there isn't really any risk of one company's interests driving the…

Like OpenStack?

OpenStack has begun to feel more of a vendor marketplace with each of them trying to see if you can adopt their flavor. It looks somewhat similar to the large number of the Linux distros that were popular about 10 years ago, except that these are much more opinionated and have serious vendor lock-in possibilities since it relates to enterprise. Kubernetes, on the other hand feels like a harmonious and homogeneous solution to a specific problem.
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