Why no one cares about privacy anymore

Post by loup-vaillant » Sun, Mar 14, 2010, 12:34 PM UTC

Groxx wrote: post #15

loup-vaillant wrote: post #12

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This is an analogy to physical possessions. "Steal" translate to "disclose", here. Personally, I don't like analogies very much. I go for a more direct approach: Google: "If I am doing nothing wrong, then I have nothing to hide", Privacy advocate: "if I am doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to see".

Privacy advocate is closer to "If you don't suspect me of something, you have no reason to be looking". "Innocent until proven guilty" isn't meant to protect the guilty, it's meant to protect the innocent.

That's exactly what I was saying. Out of context, the phrasing I have chosen may not be the best one, but it matches the phrasing of the sentence it responds to. I think it has more impact in a live debate.

Post by loup-vaillant » Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 10:19 AM UTC

tedunangst wrote: post #16

loup-vaillant wrote: post #11

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The big problem lies in "volunteering". People mostly don't volunteer. They just don't understand. Writing something on my web site or here, is volunteering. It is public and I know it. Insulting my boss in my Facebook wall, imagining that only my friends will know it, then getting fired over that is not volunteering. It's lacking a clue. And I'm only talking about information I explicitly put there. I didn't talk ab…

How is insulting your boss on your Facebook wall different from dissing him at a bar then discovering that the bartender is his brother?

It's not really different. In both cases, if you knew your boss could've known, you wouldn't have said it. In both cases, you were in trouble because your talk was not as private as you thought it was.

The real differences lies in the understanding of the risks. The "brother bartender" is something most can understand. We all understand that talking in public areas carries a risk of being overheard, and we tune our speech accordingly. However, we don't all understand the risks associated with Facebook and many other services "in the cloud". This means a higher risk of being careless (and hurt yourself in the process).

Until we understand privacy risks associated with internet services as well as those associated with physical interaction, we will have unexpected problems. I'm confident that people will learn anyway. I just hope they don't learn the hard way.

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