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What People Who Demand Innovations from Apple Don't Get

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Re: What People Who Demand Innovations from Apple Don't Get

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Post by scarface74 »

nodesocket wrote: post #3

As a shareholder, I have to admit I've lost a little confidence in Tim Cook. He's a fantastic operations guy, but lacks a founder's vision, drive and risk-taking mentality. I also think companies, unlike governments, are best run by dictators. With Tim, it seems like decisions are community (in terms of employee) driven instead of coming from his vision. With that said, I'm still a huge Apple fan boy. The stock's fun…

So exactly what consumer electronic market should Apple get into that's even 20% the size of the phone market?

Even before the iPhone was introduced, the phone market was huge by volume if not revenue.

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Post by PeterisP »

sickbeard wrote: post #2

I'm really finding it difficult to follow the author's logic here. He starts off with the title "What Tim Cook's Apple has in common with Porsche's Cayenne?", but then the only comment he makes regarding porche is .. "Just think what Porsche’s hardcore users said when they first saw Porsche Cayenne. “Betrayal!”, “It’s not a Porsche!”. And yet it made a killing when it comes to sales. Think Mercedes A Class, BMW 1…" T…

The author's point is that the proper and profitable way to run a company - once it's crossed the chasm - is the way Cook is running now.

You needed Jobs (or someone like him) to get Apple to where it is now by doing things that fit the early adopter market. But once you have done it, it becomes the wrong thing to do - because doing what the early adopters want/need will hurt the much larger, much more profitable part of the business and customers that actually do prefer the stability.

It's not a dead end - it's harvesting the field you've planted instead of neglecting it to try other fields/crops; it's what the shareholders would likely prefer and unsurprisingly they have done so.

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Post by zaro »

What people demanding innovation from Apple don't get is that as a corporation Apple cares only about profit. If the profit happens to require innovation then there will be innovation , but besides this it's pointless thing. Usually the innovations in marketing are enough to keep the sales.

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Post by rmc »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #12
cstross wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is a company like Apple probably needs a Jobs-like character. I have been, idly, placing bets with myself on an Apple buy-out of Tesla, shades of Apple's buy-out of NeXT -- not merely to get a lead on the auto industry, but to get a new visionary leader on board in the shape of Musk. (But I don't think Musk wants to lead a company he didn't build for himself: he doesn't want to just eat his cake, he wan…

I suspect Musk is too busy with sexy technology like rockets and electric and self-driving cars to be bothered with agonizing over what Walmart moms think is a good phone. Apple isn't this hot sexy thing anymore, its the standard bearer of the mobile revolution which has become a fairly boring part of everyone's lives. I can't imagine a personality like Musk doing that job. It would seem like a caretaker job I imagin…

Couldn't you have said that Apple pre-Jobs, or pre-iPhone?

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Post by paweltkaczyk »

coldtea wrote: post #14
joshuata wrote: post #4

A couple lines really bother me in this piece: "... it matters to you whether your phone has 64 or 128 GB of RAM" Holy Cow! I want that phone! I've only got 8 GB of RAM on my desktop. "The first iPhone had apps..." The only apps the original iPhone had were the kind you could get on any feature phone: weather, stocks, etc... It wasn't until later that the app store opened and really changed things. As a whole, the ar…

> Holy Cow! I want that phone! I've only got 8 GB of RAM on my desktop. They probably had in mind smartphone disk storage options. That said, technically speaking, they are correct in a pedantic way: a phone's SSD is also RAM, as there's a constant time of accessing any random address on the drive.

That's exactly what I meant :) RAM as in random access memory, as opposed to read-only memory. As you mentioned, I'm not uber-geek :)

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Post by paweltkaczyk »

joshuata wrote: post #4

A couple lines really bother me in this piece: "... it matters to you whether your phone has 64 or 128 GB of RAM" Holy Cow! I want that phone! I've only got 8 GB of RAM on my desktop. "The first iPhone had apps..." The only apps the original iPhone had were the kind you could get on any feature phone: weather, stocks, etc... It wasn't until later that the app store opened and really changed things. As a whole, the ar…

I think MacBooks were created after the market crossed the chasm already. There was nothing revolutionary about those laptops. They just keep on improving them, making them… thinner.

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Post by paweltkaczyk »

PeterisP wrote: post #22
sickbeard wrote: post #2

I'm really finding it difficult to follow the author's logic here. He starts off with the title "What Tim Cook's Apple has in common with Porsche's Cayenne?", but then the only comment he makes regarding porche is .. "Just think what Porsche’s hardcore users said when they first saw Porsche Cayenne. “Betrayal!”, “It’s not a Porsche!”. And yet it made a killing when it comes to sales. Think Mercedes A Class, BMW 1…" T…

The author's point is that the proper and profitable way to run a company - once it's crossed the chasm - is the way Cook is running now. You needed Jobs (or someone like him) to get Apple to where it is now by doing things that fit the early adopter market. But once you have done it, it becomes the wrong thing to do - because doing what the early adopters want/need will hurt the much larger, much more profitable par…

Thanks for clarifying that. It's exactly what I meant :)
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