Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

coteditor.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–198 of 198 posts

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#191

Post by hibbelig »

JadeNB wrote: post #186
Tloewald wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Ma... emacs has plenty of modes, although actually that's not really my big problem with emacs (or vim) when I think more about it. It's needing to remember stuff rather than recognize and select (which is the fundamental advantage of GUI, if you don't like remembering things). Most of the stuff I see vim/emacs-ers boast about are easily achievable by me with…

> emacs has plenty of modes …. This is not the sense in which vim is called a modal editor—at least, I think of it as meaningfully different. In different Emacs major modes, for example, the tab key might create different indentations; but, in different vim modes, the 'x' key might remove a character (in normal mode) or insert an 'x' character (in insert mode). I think of the statement "vim is a modal editor" as "vim…

Emacs has "modes" for:

- File/directory browsing (think Norton Commander) - Email client (several of them) - Terminal (vt100) - Remote file browsing/editing (think WinSCP, Cyberduck) - Games (Sokoban, Tetris)

It's not "subtle".

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#193

Post by trevorhartman »

trevorhartman wrote: post #192
trevorhartman wrote: post #3

I don't get it. Haven't they ever heard of vim/emacs?

Sometimes I like to spend my karma by posting crap like this. Also: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-osQ0QDYcXJ8/VGZqisyHLYI/AAAAAAAAAY...

How do I upvote myself again?

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#194

Post by brianpgordon »

tjl wrote: post #135
netheril96 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IntelliJ has very good IDEs. But their IDEs would be even better were they native OS X applications. For example, you can't use the Mac OS X services like "Look up in a dictionary" in IntelliJ.

For me, it's the open and save dialogs that bother me most. I quite like the editor, especially as compared to Eclipse, but for source editing, I'd rather use one the OS X editors like TextMate or BBEdit.

I thought that it uses the native OS X file choosers unless you have ide.mac.filechooser.native set to false in the IntelliJ registry.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#195

Post by [deleted] »

alextgordon wrote: post #119
veidr wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can confirm that text encoding is still a real pain in Japan. Despite the fact that we now have UTF-8, which should be used whenever possible, legacy encodings like SJIS, EUC, etc. still abound. For instance, whenever I download CSV bank or credit card data here in Japan, I always have to convert the file from one of those encodings before using it. At work in Tokyo, I deal with email in these encoding (or worse --…

Off-topic response: w.r.t. code completion plugins in Chocolat, the hard part is already done. With v3, the plugin API is now process-separated, and communication is over mach ports. Now that there's a stable, non-blocking and low-latency foundation for plugins, all I need to do is figure out a good API for it. My advice to aspiring text editor authors would be: do development on the slowest most outdated computer yo…

[deleted]

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#196

Post by tkubacki »

Demiurge wrote: post #182
tkubacki wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it' not much worse than osx but can't say anything for sure - I usually work with power cord (just sometimes in customer's office)

I really have no idea why someone would downvote your honest answer.... This is getting out of hand. Anyway, in my experience it's been about 50-70% worse battery life on ubuntu compared to OSX. Which, as you point out, is no issue if you don't need all 4 or 8 hours of the full potential of MacBook battery life. A meeting might last 2 hours for me at most, but if traveling, battery life is a deal breaker for me.

>I really have no idea why someone would downvote your honest answer

there is a big part of HN crowd whose whole life purpose is to downvote something they didn't like or don't understand

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#197

Post by bbcbasic »

orand wrote: post #97
bbcbasic wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried that, but with no easy way to turn it off (without uninstalling it) it feels a bit 'in the deep end'. Once I am happy with using Vim productively I may try it. Another concern with this is pairing, as there is no easy way to turn it off. Although staying in insert mode and keeping the default bindings for VS may be OK.

Ctrl+Shift+F12 disables and re-enables VsVim. When disabled it's as if it wasn't installed.

Thanks this is enough incentive to reinstall it and get vimming again.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#198

Post by jevgeni »

tuhdo wrote: post #173
jevgeni wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My progression was Vim -> Emacs -> Sublime. Funnily enough, on systems with no Sublime I still tend to use Vim. It took me about a month of consciously making myself work in Emacs to get a hang of it. But I don't use any major features, like macros. Emacs is awesome for Python indenting, for example, but when I switched to a less elaborate indenting convention, I kind of just drifted away from Emacs.

You should see my other answer to see what Emacs is capable of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8639804 Definitely not less than Sublime.

Just noticed your comment there. And seriously impressive material there.

And I've settled with Sublime not because I think it's absolutely superior to Emacs. But mostly because, I've noticed, that I don't use the advanced features that often, and when I do, I always have to look them up in a cheat sheet or my O'Reilly book on Emacs. And Sublime is a bit jiffier on a Mac, then XEmacs or AquaEmacs.

Post reply on HN