No mention of which license they are using?
You can verify yourself at the source :)
Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
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#192Does anyone know if this means an OSX/Linux version of Visual Studio might one day be possible?
I am hoping JetBrains folks will port their suite of .Net tools to other platforms. Since the core of these tools is already cross platform (JVM-based), it may happen faster than Microsoft does to Visual Studio.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm not sure what they've done to receive such hatred. Hatred? I simply decide not to buy into a certain company's products and services because I recall some misdeeds from the past and that's equal to hatred? As for what they have done, I thought Microsofts history was chronicled enough that it doesn't need repetition, especially not on a website for 'hackers'. But if you need pointers, you can go visit groklaw.ne…
I think some people just have moved on. Heck, a lot of people here were not in tech when Microsoft was doing bad stuff. Stacker: 20 years ago. IE Antitrust: 10 years ago. SCO: 10 years ago.
They're still doing bad stuff today, just on different fronts. That said, I hope they give Google and Apple a run for their money, those are (probably) just as bad.
The last ruling in the SCO case was a mere 4 years ago.
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#194If the support for osx and linux depends on xamarin, the future of .NET on those platforms is very dubious.
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#195aka "We're actually facing competition from open source now, so we're going to listen to what people have been saying for years. Love us?"
aka "Thanks for giving us what we want, but you're so evil that I can't get past the $ in the name Micro$oft."
Stay closed source? People bitch.
Open source the software? People bitch.
Can't win.
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#196It's funny how Nadella has moved the needle more for developers in 9 months than Ballmer did in the last decade or so, and all that without running around like a madman too. Pretty good. I'll never switch back to MS for what they've done in the past but it is nice to see them try hard to become a nicer player in the software eco-system. Google and Apple need some other party to keep them sharp, it might as well be MS…
>I'll never switch back to MS for what they've done in the past I'm not sure what they've done to receive such hatred. They are just a technology company and are trying to sell the product.
It is not hatred, decades more of experience. Throughout the 90's and early 2000's Microsoft abused their monopoly position to the detriment of many. Open source options were much more limited then than now. The only reason Microsoft is changing now is that they have no choice.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seeing comments like this “I'll never switch back to MS for what they've done in the past” always reminds me of this post from Hanselman http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MicrosoftKilledMyPappy.aspx
- Stacker - Netscape - SCO And many others besides. Companies have reputations just like people do (that's why we call them 'incorporated') and just like you can lose your trust in a person you can lose your trust in a corporation. This is not about Microsoft just doing 'stupid stuff sometimes' it is about institutionalized criminal behavior sanctioned at the highest level of one of the largest software companies in…
True, but companies change. I was, too, a MS fan turned hater, but I'm willing to give them another chance -- look how far Bill Gates has come. I certainly prefer them over Big Brother Google.
EDIT: In fact, I prefer the old-guard companies like MS and Oracle to Google's and Facebook's new guard. The old guard is easy to figure out: they're out for profit. The new guard is a lot tricker: sure they're out for profit, too, but usually in a roundabout way that involves subterfuge, baiting people with "free" stuff, spying on their customers and their acquaintances, and various propaganda made to convince people they're working in their best interest.
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#198 Repost1.
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#199Good move, but (too) late. The move is designed to attract iOS and Android Devs to .NET. But let's see: As an iOS developer, I've invested years in learning Objective-C and Cocoa, UIKit, etc. Now I'm starting with Swift. I'm sure a lot of iOS devs feel this way. Besides, if I can't use it from OSX, then I'm out. Why should I forget everything and learn C#/.NET ? If I want a write-once-run-everywhere thing, then I cou…
The article answers many of your questions. For intstance, it announced support for Linux and OSX.
C# and .NET let you dev on OSX, Linux and Windows, then deploy to OSX, iOS, Windows, Windows Store, Windows Phone, Linux and Android. Your only other real option for that kind of portability is C / C++, but. Well, you know, then you're working in C / C++.
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#200Repost2.