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Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#191

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$4166/month is meeting people halfway, considering these guys could easily make twice that in salary at a normal job.

Twice that? Easily? Color me skeptical...

Yes, twice, salaries in Silicon Valley for engineers are $150k +/- depending on experience and ability level.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#192
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I'm in the crowdfunding business, so I feel strange saying this, but I'm really turned off by this model of 'pay us in advance for developing a product that hasn't been market tested or validated,' especially when asking for a sum as large as is $100,000. What happened to building something and selling it? According to the campaign page, the need is so great because: "We're asking for a lot of money, so of course you…

How is this any different from somebody drawing a salary while working at a charity? Not everyone is independently wealthy and able to just volunteer their time.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#193
post #66

I'm in the crowdfunding business, so I feel strange saying this, but I'm really turned off by this model of 'pay us in advance for developing a product that hasn't been market tested or validated,' especially when asking for a sum as large as is $100,000. What happened to building something and selling it? According to the campaign page, the need is so great because: "We're asking for a lot of money, so of course you…

Charging for a WordPress plugin? I'm really turned off by this model of charging money for open source software.

If you were really concerned about crowdfunding you wouldn't charge a princely sum for a crowdfunding WordPress plugin built on open source software.

What happened to making WordPress plugins for free. I found it insulting to ask me to pay more than I think it's worth.

I suppose there's no problem with people who live in glass houses hurling stones around the Internets.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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post #139

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Thanks! The idea is you run Mailpile on a machine you control (it is an MUA), either your laptop (and connect to localhost) or a home server like a plug computer or something like that - basically somewhere where you feel comfortable storing your secret keys. And yes, API access to mail is something we already support, every "command" can return either HTML, plain text or JSON. Probably XML to come as well. We'll hav…

I'm not sure how you plan on doing it, but I think you should tie everyone's public keys to their names/id's. So let's say you know someone who uses Mailpile. You shouldn't have to ask him what's his key. You should just "enable PGP" (if it's not default, though maybe it should be), and he should just get the e-mail. So try to do the key management as automatic and "out of the way" for users as possible. That's the b…

But that just defeats the whole purpose of PGP. If you don't even know where the key is coming from, how do you know it's secure?

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#198
Here's why I want something like Mailpile:

Right now, every single email I receive is encrypted. I have my public GPG key on my mail server, and every incoming email that's not already encrypted is encrypted using that public key. That way if the anyone compels my VPS provider for access, they just get a bunch of encrypted email.

So my problem isn't receiving or encrypting email, it's reading it. The only real option I have right now is Thunderbird, which isn't great, and is no longer under development. Mailpile doesn't look like a mail service to me, it looks like a browser-based but locally-hosted MUA, which might be the remedy to Thunderbird that we need.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#199

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4166/month is only $50k/year. It's easy for software developers to make more than $100k/year, especially in the bay area.

Sadly, in the Bay Area $4166 is almost exactly what an exempt employee making $100K actually takes home every month.

No, if they were making $100K, then taxes and witholding, etc. will leave them with roughly 65% of their gross.

So they'd actually be taking home closer to $5416 per month.

Still "sad" (given that average rental rate on a two-bedroom apartments is $2K+ per month in the general bay area), but not quite as much.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Regarding Pull Requests, this is quite important if and when you want to change licenses, or dual license. Make sure you have on file release forms for every copyright holder who submits code that grant you permission to relicense later on. For one line bug fixes it can be a pain, but it's worth it. One problem with this though is that it places an unfair advantage with the current maintainer. A fork of the project w…

Ugh, why? You're just discouraging people from contributing by forcing them to accept that their code might be used in a matter they don't approve of in the future.

Because it prevents a choice of more liberal licensing later.

Ogre3D was able to successfully transition from LGPL to MID/BSD because of contributor agreements.

The Apache Software Foundation, Free Software Foundation, and others all require contributor agreements for very good reasons.

If your projects starts out with very liberal licensing, it's not necessary strictly speaking (unless you're concerned about patents). But that's the tradeoff.

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