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Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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We all need to back this project to get rid of the monopoly of Google.

Google doesn't have anywhere near a monopoly on Email. They are barely ahead their two largest competitors.

and what planet do you live in? everybody I know has a Google account only because of either Gmail or Youtube.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#163
post #66

I'm in the crowdfunding business, so I feel strange saying this, but I'm really turned off by this model of 'pay us in advance for developing a product that hasn't been market tested or validated,' especially when asking for a sum as large as is $100,000. What happened to building something and selling it? According to the campaign page, the need is so great because: "We're asking for a lot of money, so of course you…

What a bizarre and nihilistic reaction.

People will look at the app for themselves, decide whether it's a good value proposition for them or not. Nobody needs your bitching and moaning; if you don't like it, don't pay anything.

You're just demoralizing people for the sake of it. I'm disgusted that yours is the top ranked comment.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#164
post #158

This is exactly what I've been looking for! It seems the product is aimed at technical users (at least initially), though there are some technical details I didn't see in the video, description or FAQ: - This is an MUA, correct? Based on the features on the project page, it sounds like MailPile will not act as an MTA or MDA, and is predominantly interfacing with mbox/maildir. I see features for IMAP and POP3 on the r…

> The server-side code for MailPile must have access to my secret key, correct? Dealbreaker right there.

Why? You can just run the server on your own machine. That's how the git annex assistant works, for example - start a local webserver, then launch the browser pointing to it.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#165

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I don't understand your objections at all. These guys are making a proposal, which individuals are free to accept or reject as they see fit. Those who accept it know what they're getting themselves into and accept the risk. No one is getting scammed. If these guys want a parachute, that's their prerogative. Just because you wouldn't take the same approach doesn't mean the approach is a bad one.

Point blank - I'm tired of people abusing crowdfunding as some sort of money grab (Spike Lee's recent Kickstarter as an example) and because I'm involved in the industry, I have a vested interest in seeing crowdfunding, as an industry, prosper. These guys probably have a great product, and are probably great people, and for that reason alone, I feel bad that my comment leads the thread. However, I never said anything…

> I'm tired of people abusing crowdfunding as some sort of money grab (Spike Lee's recent Kickstarter as an example) and because I'm involved in the industry, I have a vested interest in seeing crowdfunding, as an industry, prosper.

I'm curious, what does "abusing crowdfunding" mean, in precise terms? What is wrong with what Spike Lee's request for money? I understand crowdfunding to be simply a kind of transaction. A banker's job is to facilitate transactions between people, not to discriminate in favor of the ones he likes.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#166
post #102

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Please stay AGPL. It's the right choice for these times. BTW, beware of code ownership of pull requests from corporations.

Regarding Pull Requests, this is quite important if and when you want to change licenses, or dual license. Make sure you have on file release forms for every copyright holder who submits code that grant you permission to relicense later on. For one line bug fixes it can be a pain, but it's worth it. One problem with this though is that it places an unfair advantage with the current maintainer. A fork of the project w…

Ugh, why? You're just discouraging people from contributing by forcing them to accept that their code might be used in a matter they don't approve of in the future.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#167
post #161

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Google doesn't have anywhere near a monopoly on Email. They are barely ahead their two largest competitors.

and what planet do you live in? everybody I know has a Google account only because of either Gmail or Youtube.

I live on the planet not defined only by your personal experiences.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#168
post #161

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and what planet do you live in? everybody I know has a Google account only because of either Gmail or Youtube.

I live on the planet not defined only by your personal experiences.

Ok then go research how many companies in silicon valley give their employees Gmail. All the companies I've been worked provided Gmail only because there is really not a good open source option. And Google accounts is a huge monopoly that obviously sounds bad enough to hurt your feelings. But this is the reality. Google is a valley of shit and most of us want to move on from it.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#169
post #94

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Totally get it, but why not share some of the risk with your supporters and meet them halfway? Asking for a full (decent) salary for two people for a year places all of the risk on your supporters and makes you look uninspired. Edit: I can't reply to child, so I'll do it here. It has nothing to do with a free ride. I don't want the product because the solution isn't right for me, but I would much prefer to pay a mont…

$4166/month is meeting people halfway, considering these guys could easily make twice that in salary at a normal job.

Twice that? Easily? Color me skeptical...

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

#170

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$4166/month is meeting people halfway, considering these guys could easily make twice that in salary at a normal job.

Twice that? Easily? Color me skeptical...

I was pulling in more out of high school. Trust me, half is being generous.
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