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So, to be clear, Google is supposed to make video chat with groups of people, recording to YouTube, desktop sharing, and Google Docs live editing work with XMPP? Or else they're evil?
If they're not using XMPP, they should publish their new protocol and let other clients interface with it.
Stop relying on Google for everything. Stop building things on Google. No company should have such a big impact on your life and society as a whole. Several months ago I moved everything to the Microsoft ecosystem. In some ways its trading one taskmaster for another, but if we don't exercise our freedom of choice in the marketplace we soon won't have a choice.
> Several months ago I moved everything to the Microsoft ecosystem.
So now Microsoft has such a big impact on your life?
Wouldn't it make more sense to spread things out over a variety of services?
Everybody knows that SMTP is old, inefficient (hey, it’s nearly plain-text!), insecure, diversified (so many different servers to choose from!) and generally just bad. Clearly a closed web interface that only runs in Chrome would be much better for everyone! Then people could always be sure with whom they communicate, nobody could hack or social-engineer their way into other accounts, and everyone would have to follo…
SMTP is worse than plain text. It's plain text and base64 (which increases file sizes by ~30%). It's a horrid protocol, but sadly it's what we're currently stuck with. But this is all moot as the article is about XMPP, WebDav and RSS. The SMTP headline is nothing more than clickbait.
It is good that people keep the pressure on Google regarding openness, it gives weight to the voice of the many employees there who want to do the right thing.
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I was a Microsoft hater when I was 15, too, but at least Microsoft makes their money by selling Windows, Office and the like rather than by selling my data. So even if their ‘cloud services’ such as Outlook.com are ad-supported in some way, at least they don’t completely rely on that, and I still have the choice whether to use Windows or not – all their services run just fine in Opera on Debian, too.
Google does not sell your data. http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/
1. Google creates a service and gives it away for free. 2. Most alternative providers of the service die. The only ones that still provide the service must also give it away for free and leverage the service in some other way. 3. Google kills service. Someone might try to fill the void, but why would they? Google might just provide the service again for free. I wonder how much of the economy has been lost by giving a…
There's nothing wrong with the model while Google or another corp do it for their own money (unlike gov.).
People are freely and willingly agree to see the ads in exchange to using free services. If you think they all wrong, that's just your personal opinion.
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1. Looking at the other threads I can't quite get a straight answer on XMPP, but it seems to be entirely disabled for the "new communications product called Hangouts" (new??), but this is not just about federation. 2. claudius is very clearly explaining why google SHOULD disable SMTP. Nobody has seriously suggested they would; you might need to recalibrate your satire detector. Also claudius gave several reasons that…
It is not available in Hangouts, but it will continue to be supported "for the foreseeable future" in GTalk.
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Arrgh. Title is total link bait. There is no news about SMTP here . The linked blog post is whining about XMPP, which is not being disabled . Apparently the author is a user of "XMPP Federation" (the ability to link XMPP servers together a-la IRC), which is also not being disabled . But apparently it might be someday, as the new Hangouts stuff won't support it. So how did we get form "can't talk to your Hangout via a…
I don't think they would kill SMTP, but I also didn't think they would kill CalDav.
Youth geeks are just discovering that corporations are all alike. Nothing that the older timers don't already know since the mainframe days. Google is just arriving to the point where the shareholders have more to say than whatever a few geeks scattered around the world might think.
Well put, which is why I have reverted to using Google solely for search.