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Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #168

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Ah, so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. Care to share your experiences on what it was like to work there?

> so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. I re-read the parent, and nowhere does it say nor imply that the CTO nor the people he hired were male. For all that we know, the site might be built by bimbos scratching one of their own itches. I wouldn't bet on it, of course, but I'm amazed to see that prejudices are so deeply ingrained that: * you read what was absolutely not written; * nobody notic…

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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That is the worst way to go about this because it DOESN'T ACTUALLY FIX THE PROBLEM. It just makes it worse. Particularly because you are punishing people, men, who have never participated in the subjugation of women. This whole counter racism, counter sexism thing is just making things worst. It is basically just shifting the balance. What does that do for actually fixing the problem? Not a damn thing. Your attitude…

> Particularly because you are punishing people, men, who have never participated in the subjugation of women. This is impossible, all men have and do participate in the subjugation of women so as systemic sexism exists.

But according to your logic, all women have participated in the subjugation of women through systemic sexism.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #143

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I find it absolutely despicable to make light of violent abuse, including sexual abuse, in prison. We should be doing all we can to make our prisons safer for everyone. The fact that many people think it is OK to make and laugh at prison rape jokes sickens me. What would you think if I made rape jokes about your 90 year old grandma? Or your ten year old son? Or your wife? If that is not ok, neither is prison rape of…

Do you live in the real world? Prisons aren't safe because they are full of violent offenders! It's pretty obvious that when you densely pack the bottom tier of society into small spaces that the outcome will be a whole load of violence - of all forms, rape (which is about power and control), gangs (which is core to the human species), fights and murder.

Sorry, I have never been to prison so I don't really know. The statistics I read boggles my mind.

What can we do to help deter prisoner abuse?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Where are all the feminists now? This is the perfect example of double-standards implied by women. Imagine an alternative scenario where men could rate their female counterparts on the basis of their 'assets' as defined by some vague methodology. Imagine how much fire under men would be, with ALL men being broadly labelled as sexists because this app was targeted at men. I am seriously asking - Where are all the femi…

They're here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/02/07/lulu_app_for... and here: http://jezebel.com/5982867/the-creepy-new-yelp-for-boys-and-... Do you not know how to use google?

Nope, a couple of unpopular blog posts is not something I wanted to see. I could have googled those myself. I was expecting a 'rage' unleashed - with just one question - 'How dare they do this!?' "How dare they do this to Gender 'x'" The same rage you saw previously when this happened to women.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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How does this even work? I assume it's a database that you search by name and location but then there's going to be all kinds of collisions. Or does it pull data from social networks? I imagine the signal to noise ratio will just be horrible, bitter ex girlfriends will just spam guys with negative tags even if they aren't true and it's information will just lose all value.

It seems you must login with Facebook, which I assume allows for picking of very specific people.

I would expect it to be a lot of negatives, because people usually don't (seem to) gossip as much about positives.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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> Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Owning property. Voting. Higher education. Being allowed to practice a profession. Being favored by marriage laws. Being favored by social biases. Yes, so let's reverse it, and get a female-biased revenge ...on people that weren't even alive back at those times. Why not also sell white people as slaves?

You're doing it wrong. If you want to Godwin a thread, you actually have to mention Hitler or the Holocaust. Just making ridiculously over-the-top historical analogies isn't enough.

I'm the one doing it wrong? The parent mentioned that discrimination is OK because of "historical analogies" drawn from past centuries. I merely extended it to another domain for sarcasm's sake.

Second, you DO know that "Godwin's law" is not an actual law that govern's discussions, and it's not even something that people agree on its validity, right? It's merely a BS internet meme, a funny quote used as a joke. Invoking it is like invoking made up statistics as an argument.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Wait, Hacker News is OK talking about gender now? Because I thought that stuff got flagged because it wasn't "relevant"- evidently the community has had quite the change of heart recently.

Either that, or it's OK because it's about men and not women. One of the two.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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post #63
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As a guy, I couldn't care less that these kinds of things exist. This app will be used exclusively by a superficial audience who I would have absolutely no interest in meeting. If anything, I'd quite like to end up on this with extremely negative reviews just so the horrible people using this will stay the fuck away from me.

But then those people will talk to their friends, and so on. And, contrary to what you might think, there's plenty of highly educated women who are sufficiently steeped in feminism (due to the process of acquiring that higher education) to see this as perfectly fair payback for patriarchy's many evils, and to use it without regret. So you end up targeting a thin sliver of possible women: not too superficial, but not…

>there's plenty of highly educated women who are sufficiently steeped in feminism (due to the process of acquiring that higher education) to see this as perfectly fair payback for patriarchy's many evils, and to use it without regret.

Your implicit attack on morals derived from feminism reveals a failure to understand feminism and its ideals and effects. Furthermore, demonizing "plenty of highly educated women" as eye-for-an-eye combatants seeking revenge for patriarchy isn't just silly, it's offensive.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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I can't help feeling that the people who use such an app to date and rate deserve each other.

The issue is men don't use the app. I downloaded it on my SO's phone and was able to find most of the college age guys I know on it. None of them knew they were on there.

The issue is men don't use the app.

I think the issue is men can't use the app.

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