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Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by julianz »

Speaking from experience here, they don't ban your entire Google account, they block access to Antigravity (and only that, other Google AI services are still available). Pi very briefly supported logging into Antigravity a few months ago, I did so and made a couple of toy queries and then didn't use it again, and my Antigravity access was suspended until a few weeks ago.

The process to get un-suspended was completely byzantine and Google's own support desk wasn't able to do anything. I just kept trying newer versions of Antigravity until it eventually grew the ability to explain what was going on and then let me request access back.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by Terr_ »

exe34 wrote: post #123
bingbong4748 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mom’s Gmail account got banned for no reason whatsoever last week. Since then they removed her recovery number and 2FA as they ‘looked suspicious’. Access to nearly 20 years of emails, photos and docs gone in an instant. It’s been particularly painful because she used Google to log in to everything too, including for health records that she needs. There is no way of contacting anyone at Google about it and apparen…

I have an auto "checkout" every month and I download my data. I don't know if it's readable, I haven't checked, but it feels comforting. My email is also just a private name@domain that forwards to my Gmail. If I ever need to switch, it would be a simple update with my registrar. (I'm aware domains can be stolen too, but I expect to have some leverage as I'm paying for that in the UK.)

> I don't know if it's readable, I haven't checked, but it feels comforting.

I've been meaning to get back to tinkering with a Immich on a docker container, as a Google Photos competitor I can self-host.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by janalsncm »

Hizonner wrote: post #69
danschuller wrote: post #4

Apart from the products not being very competitive this is the main reason I'm reluctant to use any Google models / AI products. The account is way to precious thing to lose based on some AI classifier misfiring and then you know there's good route to get it reenabled.

If your Google account is precious, you've already done something wrong...

Yes as a teenager I made many mistakes, not least of them being making a Gmail account. I even used it to sign up for a few services. I do have a bit of a wild side so sometimes I log in to check it.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by artdigital »

joseda-hg wrote: post #78
dig1 wrote: post #27

> (from Twitter) ...My Google account too valuable to risk it impacted by Antigravity usage If your account is that valuable, it's time to consider moving to a self-hosted option. Or at the very least, start by purchasing a domain and linking it to your Google account, while keeping offline backups of all your emails and documents. The real problem isn't that Google might accidentally ban you; it's that there's no wa…

If you're, say, Theo, you can selfhost email all you want, but it still ties down your YouTube channel, AdSense, etc., with little to no recourse.

I’m also doing YouTube and the first thing I did was create a separate Google account for it. I’d be very surprised if Theo has everything running on the same personal account

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by smartbit »

Lord_Zero wrote: post #71
lovelearning wrote: post #29

Good that I saw this. The VSCode Antigravity extension I was using turns out to be a 3rd-party one. I found out only today that there's an official extension too, which I think wasn't there earlier.

Yeah they had gemini extensions, they depreciated them and forked vscode, now they are crawling back to vscode with antigravity extensions...

Is Antigravity CLI still the only TUI allowed for Gemini? Coming from Claude Code, agy is quite a few steps back. Particularly I miss /ide that can connect to vscode and then can display a pre-write diff which then can be acknowledged or declined in CC.

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Post by verdverm »

dimgl wrote: post #157
verdverm wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenCode is a good harness that works with every token vendor

Err... the harness I'm building works just fine with Google APIs.

It sounded closer to Scion, which wraps the various harnesses. Given your reply, I'm not sure where your project sits in the stack or what you mean by `agy` support in another harness

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by userbinator »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #105
nairboon wrote: post #18

Just for reference, stuff like this is exactly why some people oppose the forced Apple/Google requirement in government systems like the new eIDs (eIDAS) in Europe. If you're forced to use Apple/Google for digital identification, playing around with your Google account and get it banned can have disproportional consequences. Suddenly you're locked out of all online government systems.

Maybe we should reframe how we see the big gate keepers like Google and Apple as they seem to be a new concept. They are not governments but have properties of them. Governments are defined as having a monopoly on violence. And we, through a lot of struggles, were able to attenuate this power such that this power was not granted to a single person alone but both distributed to the judgement of many and codified so th…

They are not governments but have properties of them.

Additionally, they are unelected.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by josephg »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #183
throwaway13337 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Centralization of power at all levels is bad. I therefore agree in spirit. But who is the 'we' in that 'we'? If you defer to a politician, you simply centralize more power into a body of government constrained by only cultural norms and donor interests. Making a change requires the shifting of the overtone window of acceptability. At that point, it executes on it own regardless of mechanism. The cultural norms are th…

> Centralization of power at all levels is bad. I assume that by this you mean something more nuanced than "we should abolish the FAA and let the airplanes crash until private enterprise solves it." Or maybe "Let drug dealers (pharmaceutical companies) sell whatever the free market will bear without testing, safety, or the ability to hold them responsible." I only ask, because there are some people who unironically t…

If anything, I think software needs more of these sort of top down safety rules. I want to companies held financially / criminally responsible for data leaks. Just like restaurants are held responsible for food safety.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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Post by userbinator »

lenerdenator wrote: post #177
logicchains wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean, you don't think a party named the "Alternative for Deutschland" would make benevolent use of such systems when it gets into power?

Ah, yes, AfD. Where you can walk into a meeting, and cut off a guy's speech about five minutes in with this line [0] Seriously though, I'm surprised that there's not a lot more mass resistance to the idea. It's a massive surveillance apparatus. Meanwhile, Flock cameras are getting cut down, shot at, spray painted, or stolen with regularity in the US. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3AegXcu7kA

Meanwhile, Flock cameras are getting cut down, shot at, spray painted, or stolen with regularity in the US.

For better or worse, there's a sizeable chunk of the US population who still have that "rebel" trait; that and the innate distrust of government and institutions in general is nothing compared to European culture.

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Post by userbinator »

dig1 wrote: post #27

> (from Twitter) ...My Google account too valuable to risk it impacted by Antigravity usage If your account is that valuable, it's time to consider moving to a self-hosted option. Or at the very least, start by purchasing a domain and linking it to your Google account, while keeping offline backups of all your emails and documents. The real problem isn't that Google might accidentally ban you; it's that there's no wa…

typically means wading through Gemini or talking to (non-technical) support who just read GCP documentation back to you

These days, those two might be the same thing.

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