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Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

#71

Good that I saw this. The VSCode Antigravity extension I was using turns out to be a 3rd-party one. I found out only today that there's an official extension too, which I think wasn't there earlier.

Yeah they had gemini extensions, they depreciated them and forked vscode, now they are crawling back to vscode with antigravity extensions...

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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post #30

Banning the entire account rather than AI access is wildly user hostile. People have years of emails and calendars on their accounts. And then you get to fight the support bots and eventually go to the actual unofficial Google support - asking hn whether anyone knows someone with a pulse at Google.

This feels like the sort of thing that needs to be legislated. Banning accounts after breaking ToS is a pretty common behavior across many companies. The fact a Google account ends up being used for multiple products makes it more interesting but the overall problem here is not unique to them.

Yes, in general, scale needs to come with more responsibilities, including a requirement to provide due process, not less like it currently does.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

#75
Google still owns me a few $100 when they banned my watch only youtube red (premium at the time) account for community guideline violations which prevented me from even accessing payment page to stop / cancel. Had to do automated repeals limited every x weeks, couldn't risk charge back or changing credit card incase it fucked with rest of account. Made a separate account to grab my playlists and got banned again for same issue (again watch only accounts) and kept double charging as well. Appeals did nothing... interesting enough both accounts got unbanned like 2 years+ later.. out of blue. I surmise only because I appealed at the time so they made it through some backlog. I have 3rd gmail/youtube account on some generic side project email at the time unbeknownst to be also had youtube banned, literally never used it and only found out it was banned after going to youtube this year trying to post something side project related, and it cannot even be appealed, because it was banned so long ago. Sigh.

For reference, when my wechat account was blocked a few years ago, I got escalated to talking a real person and sorted everything out in a few days.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

#76
Can someone link the previous time this kerfuffle happened? That time it seemed like indeed we had misinterpreted, and that at that time they weren't banning accounts just cutting off AI access. But there were a lot of very good very real outraged comments condemning it, even though at the time it was not the policy.

But now! Oh man, the mechanization against humanity proceeding rapidly apace.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

#77
post #3

What is preventing anyone from automating on top of the normal google Antigravity CLI?

Google explicitly allows this and documents how: https://antigravity.google/docs/cli/headless/

This is so weird, because using a script to invoke the agy cli is clearly using a "third party tool to access the service" !

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

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post #27

> (from Twitter) ...My Google account too valuable to risk it impacted by Antigravity usage If your account is that valuable, it's time to consider moving to a self-hosted option. Or at the very least, start by purchasing a domain and linking it to your Google account, while keeping offline backups of all your emails and documents. The real problem isn't that Google might accidentally ban you; it's that there's no wa…

If you're, say, Theo, you can selfhost email all you want, but it still ties down your YouTube channel, AdSense, etc., with little to no recourse.

Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

#79
post #67

That reminds me the story about closing family wide Google accounts, because of a kid, whose account was managed by Google Family Link, was sending naked selfies to Gemini https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mis...

fwiw, google said that didn't happen.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-account-bans-3654171...

Not taking a side, but I remember that too and had looked later.

That said, I deliberately don't trust any google services. Fastmail is great; you all should try it. Google capriciously bans accounts, so keep your email elsewhere.

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