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Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by plaxiotech »

benjiro29 wrote: post #101
dlisboa wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There should be a concept called "engineering privilege". I see some companies do things that are widely out of their core product and engineers there just having fun with a bunch of different stuff with seemingly no commitment to bring in revenue. They'll re-invent/re-write things constantly, write a new compiler/package manager for their chosen language, create new frameworks, new open source projects unrelated to…

Because every company may have different needs that are not fulfilled by standards software. We have seen the large number of companies whose goal is to make custom software for other companies So is not always that reinventing is fun, but it may actually be needed. The same logic also applies for software that is used internally. It's not always that developers want to rebuild stuff, but that they need to rebuild or…

ok

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by subarctic »

yza wrote: post #38

Why develop this when the core editor is almost unusable? On Linux wayland, copypaste is broken, the file manager is laggy and snippets do not trigger before the heavy hint logic is done. This is just on top of my head, the list is long

Thankfully it's been working well for me when i use it, which tbh hasn't been that much lately since I'm getting an agent to write code for me more and more.

One thing they need to add is a way to double click on file names in agent output to navigate to it. It works in the bottom terminal but not the agent terminal panes or built in agents

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by redsaber »

I wish Zed in Windows(W11) would have fix the problem with windows(like opening the settings window on Zed) where if your scale is more than 100%(Settings -> System -> Display -> Scale) the title bar doesn't show as it is way up. Been having this problem since forever.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by sapiogram »

NewsaHackO wrote: post #159
umvi wrote: post #75

Hmm, yeah before "DeltaDB" I have a big list of things I would rather they develop/fix: - Vertical activity bar ( https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/58868#issuecommen... - rejected because it "doesn’t match our design vision for Zed") This is my #1 annoyance: clicking microscopic icons at the very bottom of the screen to switch views. - Don't crash my entire PC when there's a large (100+ MB) JSON file in the…

>This is my #1 annoyance: clicking microscopic icons at the very bottom of the screen to switch views. It’s crazy that is still an issue. I really tried to use Zed because I was trying to move away from VSCode and VSCodium did not have a featureful python lsp. I just couldn’t stand little things like that that. Also, the font was really blurry. VSCodium now has Pyfly which is decent, so I just switched back.

The font blurriness har finally been fixed now, at least.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by bubblebeard »

NoDodgeQuestion wrote: post #6

Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?

They aren't proposing to replace git though. They are just attempting to make it simpler for developers to follow changes applied by an LLM in an ergonomic fashion. Not saying it will work well but I'm happy to see someone trying a new approach here.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by manmal »

Bnjoroge wrote: post #177
manmal wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their ACP integration is good (finally), at least with Codex. For when I want to be near the code, I prefer it now over TUIs or the Codex app. It feels much more immediate that way. Sticking to the basics will kill them IMO. They have been pitching themselves as agent-native for a while btw. And the workflow they are describing in the post sounds amazing, I‘ve been wishing for that. It‘s orthogonal to CVS, no? You ca…

Is it? Last time I checked, I had to maintain a custom fork because they didnt support device auth for remote env so you couldn’t really use your chatGPT sub.

I‘m using codex no issues, over ACP.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by manmal »

latchkey wrote: post #73
DangitBobby wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ACP integration is very good, IMO. I'm using it with Claude Code. They've made so many improvements over time. I use image pasting myself, TBH I was excited it worked at all. Surprised that some rough edges around images are enough to ruin the whole thing for you.

images were just one glaring example... i didn't say anything about ruined, i just think a lot of those 'rough edges' are a bit more rough than they could be. it is a code editor after all. how about integrating the LSP so that it doesn't have to resort to rg/grep/sed/scripts to edit code?

What I really like is that all code links it outputs, open a pane at that line.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by manmal »

dlisboa wrote: post #87
NoDodgeQuestion wrote: post #6

Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?

There should be a concept called "engineering privilege". I see some companies do things that are widely out of their core product and engineers there just having fun with a bunch of different stuff with seemingly no commitment to bring in revenue. They'll re-invent/re-write things constantly, write a new compiler/package manager for their chosen language, create new frameworks, new open source projects unrelated to…

It’s not out of their domain at all IMO. I‘m only using Zed now (despite its non existent GH integration) because it works with Codex.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

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Post by hi5ato »

chiffaa wrote: post #185
hi5ato wrote: post #168

VSCode is great, but its lack of a sandbox for extensions makes it extremely vulnerable to supply chain attacks. Zed is one of the few major editors that isolates plugins, which is why I like it. However, it has far too many bugs. Regarding DeltaDB’s request to 'log conversations and changes together', I think the Linux kernel's development model — which combines mailing lists, patch exchanges and Git — provides a go…

I wouldn't really say DeltaDB is a showcase project, given Zed has been working on it for at least a year, so it's likely been a focal point of development for quite some time. If there is funding to secure, they either should've been louder on the initial announcement, or not thrown a year on this, right?

I missed that the announcement was actually from two months ago.

It will be interesting to see how they handle balancing both an editor and a VCS without Big Tech resources like Microsoft's. Considering how many contributions and years it took for Git to reach its current level of maturity, taking on both projects seems like a massive undertaking.

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