“This rock is not a worse hammer its a different tool”
Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
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Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instruments are pseudo-random until you know what you're doing. Slot machines are just slot machines
Musical instruments are not random. You’re just doing random inputs. Instruments are consistent, even if the “flavor” and quality varies with different builds. Playing a B on a saxophone always plays a B.
I see you haven't tried a modular synthesizer yet :) Getting back to the same "place" in a patch can sometimes be impossible, and it does feel "random" until you get the hang of it.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#193If you play with these models long enough, you realize there is more to them than just "model X is smarter than model Y" or "model Y is cheaper than model Z". They are different tools and the prompting technique is different. It is very much like playing an instrument. With Claude, you sometimes want to under-specify or phrase things more indirectly to give a color to the implementation or elicit something creative.…
> With Claude, you sometimes want to under-specify or phrase things more indirectly to give a color to the implementation or elicit something creative. Also (you might raise an eyebrow at this) being nice to Claude will be rewarded and being mean to Claude will be punished. Claude tends to mirror your tone more aggressively and you don't want to get into negative loops with it. > With GPT, you have to be precise and…
I haven't really experimented with being "nice" or "mean", but I would worry that a prompt like "No, dumbass, ..." would kick it into the patterns of someone who frequently got called a dumbass (perhaps for good reason) in the training set. On the other hand, maybe it could trigger more defensive responses with argumentation to explain its conclusions.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have a toolbox full of similar but different tool getting to know them is a prudent thing to do, not a psychosis. There's no connection because the tool is immutable (except for adjustments you made) but you do develop a specific relation with that tool. Some people even love some of their tools at some level. And if humans are anything, they are tool users.
Yeah, AI tools bring software developers closer to the messy real world where 0 and 1 aren't always exactly 0 and 1.
Computing is useful for exactly going away from the messy real world of humans. I don’t need random errors in my financial transactions. I don’t want random errors when doctors are retrieving my medical history. And I don’t want random errors in my backup,… There’s plenty of non-deterministic things in my life, I don’t want my computer to follow suite.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are not human. Humans have names, faces, voices, personality, a personal history, family, care for whatever they call their community. With humans it's actually good and worthwhile to create and strengthen connections. With an LLM, that's psychosis.
They are not human, but it helps to prompt them similarly. See: https://www.anthropic.com/research/emotion-concepts-function
Good read. Thanks for sharing.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would be ideal, but AI is less like a tool and more like a human in this regard and you don't have character sheets for each of your colleagues, as well.
These are $1 Trillion dollar companies that can't produce explicit details on how their products work? It's nonsense.
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Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is so dumb and goes against all the principles that enabled computers and smartphones to achieve wide adoption - the technology should evolve to fit the human. Not the other way around.
I'd argue the opposite. Technology in the past few decades was (is) limited and humans had to adapt to it. We communicate with other humans using voice and three dimensional hand gestures. To use computers and early phones we had to learn to operate new input devices: keyboards and mice. Later with touchscreens we moved to two dimensional hand (finger) gestures. We're barely making voice commands work with our device…
> Technology in the past few decades was (is) limited and humans had to adapt to it.
Was it? Think first about what it replaced. Lots of manual computation in bookkeeping and financial sectors. Telegrams and snail mail moved to email. Typesetting in books and magazines became easier and widely available,…
If there’s one thing that you can’t say about computers is that they’re limited.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#198If you play with these models long enough, you realize there is more to them than just "model X is smarter than model Y" or "model Y is cheaper than model Z". They are different tools and the prompting technique is different. It is very much like playing an instrument. With Claude, you sometimes want to under-specify or phrase things more indirectly to give a color to the implementation or elicit something creative.…
> This is not scientific at all, just vibes, YMMV. This is the problem. I would love to have a product sheet showing what each models strengths an weaknesses are, so that I can have a clear decision tree of "if this kind of work, use model X" , or "model Y should be used in ways Z" . But they all look the same from the outside and the only way to figure out which might be marginally better at what is to do extensive,…
Maybe this is similar to web search too. We know how to get google to return the results we want, and when we use other tools like Bing we get other behaviour.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I would love to have a product sheet showing what each models strengths an weaknesses are, so that I can have a clear decision tree of "if this kind of work, use model X", or "model Y should be used in ways Z". But they all look the same from the outside and the only way to figure out which might be marginally better at what is to do extensive, time consuming, and perhaps expensive testing. Think of it less like a…
Well, unlike a human, I cannot expect any these LLMs to take any ownership of the work they do. I cannot expect any given model and version (sonnet 4.6) to learn, improve and adapt over time. I cannot expect it's limitations to ever go away at the model level. So it is not like a human in most ways that I actually care about. That said, I can't wait for LLMs to stop being AI and start being just another tool. Anythin…
models don’t improve, but harnesses/tools/rules around them grow with the project.
Re: Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different tool
#200If you play with these models long enough, you realize there is more to them than just "model X is smarter than model Y" or "model Y is cheaper than model Z". They are different tools and the prompting technique is different. It is very much like playing an instrument. With Claude, you sometimes want to under-specify or phrase things more indirectly to give a color to the implementation or elicit something creative.…
We can’t tell if reported anecdotal behaviors of given LLMs are due to (1) one’s engagement history with that particular LLM provider or (2) ongoing variations in the secret system prompt all commercial LLM providers insert or (3) some other variable feature like RAG.
Classify under non-reproducible artifacts of LLM generation.