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Re: Google I/O

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Post by jjulius »

adithyareddy wrote: post #148
breezybottom wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's crazy. Those AI overviews consistently tell me wrong information.

I agree, the AI overview is definitely worse. I'm talking specifically about the AI mode search (at https://www.google.com/search?udm=50&aep=11 ). The AI overview seems to be summarizing the search results that were returned for your query already, while AI mode seems like it's doing its own searches based on your query. I would definitely give it a shot if you haven't tried it before.

I just gave it a shot and it hallucinated an off-trail, alpine scrambling route that, based on my knowledge of the area, would potentially get someone killed. I simply asked it if it could "talk to me about X route", and then it decided to make shit up instead of just regurgitating the information in the sources it cited.

It hallucinated how long a scree slope was, made up the existence of a "high rocky knoll", and insisted someone could traverse via a heather slope that's actually non-existent.

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Post by dr_kretyn »

Alive-in-2025 wrote: post #94
r_lee wrote: post #61

can't wait to hear all about the new Agentic workflows you can build with AI and build with agentic agent swarms and build more workflows to do more with Enterprise AI with Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform and elevate efficiency with the power of AI and unlock value with AI agents. also can't wait to hear more about AI integrations across Google AI Workspace, like AI Gmail or AI docs (powered by Gemini Enterprise AI)…

I can't think of a way to mock all the ai hype more than what they actually just talk about. "Next, our hacker news AI agent reads and comments for you based on your commenting history, no need to think or do anything at all - we'll automate your time wasting and make better, more relevant jokes than you & your karma score will increase exponentially."

[honest question deleted - sorry]

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Post by tomwheeler »

arionmiles wrote: post #100

Watching these bland presentations with choreographed delivery and reading off a prompt off-screen (I'm not completely sure they're doing this, but it looks like it) makes me appreciate Steve Jobs presentations from the past so much more. Steve really had product presentations down. I wish people at least tried to copy him.

I'd enjoy someone copying Steve Wozniak even more.

Re: Google I/O

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Post by southbay567 »

r_lee wrote: post #61

can't wait to hear all about the new Agentic workflows you can build with AI and build with agentic agent swarms and build more workflows to do more with Enterprise AI with Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform and elevate efficiency with the power of AI and unlock value with AI agents. also can't wait to hear more about AI integrations across Google AI Workspace, like AI Gmail or AI docs (powered by Gemini Enterprise AI)…

Honestly getting tired of this knee jerk anti-AI stance here on HN. We’re talking about the most revolutionary technology in history that’s going to change every facet of our lives. It’s getting toxic, now we have people getting booed at graduations for just mentioning AI. There will be a transition but it’s not the end of the world. Don’t cling to the past, look forward to the future.

Re: Google I/O

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Post by tomwheeler »

lacewing wrote: post #165
TiredOfLife wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was that? When phones used wires?

In the US, wired phones were often leased from the phone company! If you shop for vintage phones from the 1960s, they will often have a decal to that effect. Examples: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/71gAAeSw1URp8QPF/s-l1600.webp https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tPAAAeSw~RxqBiLR/s-l1600.webp I think this started to change only in the 1980s and 1990s, thanks to cheaper electronics imported from overseas?

Yeah, when I was a kid you had to go to the AT&T store to get a phone.

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Post by svachalek »

sylens wrote: post #139
sidcool wrote: post #98

Google I/O has been my favorite tech event since 2009 when they launched Google Wave. I was hooked.

Google Wave was ahead of its time. It could've been a meaningful Slack competitor

It's just the performance was ridiculously poor. With like half a dozen people connected, it made 300 baud modems look fast.

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Post by raincole »

dr_kretyn wrote: post #192
Alive-in-2025 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't think of a way to mock all the ai hype more than what they actually just talk about. "Next, our hacker news AI agent reads and comments for you based on your commenting history, no need to think or do anything at all - we'll automate your time wasting and make better, more relevant jokes than you & your karma score will increase exponentially."

[honest question deleted - sorry]

Of course they didn't.

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Post by lacewing »

jdw64 wrote: post #113

They claim the AI itself built an OS and demoed Doom running on it. Personally, rather than Doom, I think I'll only truly appreciate the real value of this advancement when flawless real-time YouTube subtitle translation actually becomes a reality.

> They claim the AI itself built an OS and demoed Doom running on it.

Doom ran on MS-DOS, which - by modern standards - provided a shockingly minimal set of abstractions for programs. I think about the only thing you need to run Doom is the int 21h "API" to access the FAT filesystem and perform keyboard I/O. Note that MS-DOS did not provide facilities such as memory virtualization / management, process management, video drivers, sound drivers, etc - that was all provided by the hardware itself, which had its own hardware interrupts handled by the code in the device's ROM. It's why Doom required you to choose the type of a sound card you have, the interrupt / DMA channel to use, etc.

So I think this is a lot less of a flex than it seems; in fact, Anthropic using agents to build a semi-unusable compiler is far more of an achievement. Providing enough of int 21h to run Doom is probably something that a human could do in a weekend, doubly so if they can peek at the source code of FreeDOS.

Re: Google I/O

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Post by svachalek »

dist-epoch wrote: post #131
LetsGetTechnicl wrote: post #37

"AI Mode" usage is up month over month. Almost like because they forced it upon everyone. Once again, is there any real AI demand?

For many queries, if I don't get an AI Mode response, I formulate it again until I do.

You can go straight to Gemini for that. In general it'll get a better response than AI mode too (which I think tends to use flash or flash lite).

Re: Google I/O

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Post by simianwords »

breezybottom wrote: post #115
numlock86 wrote: post #108

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While I get your point, this kind of gives me "Old man yelling at cloud" vibes. Yes, all the AI talk and bullshit bingo became quite annoying at this point, and I also can't wait for it to settle. But AI is here, and it's here to stay. Wether we like it or not. It's like what dotcom was for the internet back then. We'll get through this eventually - with a bubble bursting here and there - but making fun of it with ov…

People thought Pets.com was here to stay as well

The analogy doesn't work at all. Pets is a single small company. The dot-com boom largely survived and was profoundly important.

I just.. I don't know the mental model of the people who speak like this. What is the point you are trying to make..

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