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Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by mmcclure »

vincnetas wrote: post #38
dgellow wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was at stainless since the very beginning, I can tell you it wasn’t the plan

Yeah, but they now have new owner who might be having different plan.

The new owner's plan is...to sunset the paid product immediately and give customers access to tooling to be able to continue generating SDKs on their own. From Stainless's post:

    As we focus on Claude Platform capabilities and connecting agents to APIs, we’ll be winding down all hosted Stainless products, including our SDK generator. Starting today, new signups, projects, and SDKs will not be available.

    If you’re a Stainless customer, visit app.stainless.com/transition for help transitioning from Stainless-managed products to other options. As always, you own the SDKs you’ve generated to date, and have full rights to modify and extend them however you wish.
As a customer, all-in-all, we were pretty pleased with the outcome. Stainless was a great partner to us, even in "the end," and I'm really happy for the team.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by Computer0 »

bko wrote: post #107
PunchTornado wrote: post #91

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Oai deserves everything bad that happens to them.

Why? They started the whole chatbot paradigm. They took the leap and are very generous with free tiers. I know people are upset about the non-profit thing but the fact is that was pretty much the only way forward if they wanted to have LLMs have the impact that they are having today. It's very much a question if they'll ever turn a profit. But overall I'm grateful OpenAI had the vision to get this ball rolling when c…

They support the military industrial complex.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by Computer0 »

allknowingfrog wrote: post #120
pplante wrote: post #9

I feel like we are seeing agentic coding tools morph into walled gardens with these acquisitions. Anthropic has restricted claude code usage while OpenAI has sort of let Codex fill the void. I am curious to see how this continues to evolve.

Claude is just a tool. My team members are each free to choose the text editor or IDE that they are happiest with. In the near future, I hope to be able to say the same for coding agents. I really like Claude, but I don't track Claude resources in our repos. If something better comes along, I'm betting it will be perfectly happy to parse the markdown of my existing memory files, and nothing in the repo itself will fo…

I can just rename the CLAUDE.md files to AGENTS.md when I would like to. They're all just sitting there on my system.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by yawnxyz »

embedding-shape wrote: post #106
paulddraper wrote: post #70

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That is WILD to put those statements together in the same article.

What's WILD is people ending up relying on these essentially startup-slops that just serves to give you future technical debt once you have to eventually moved away because they got acquired by $INSERT_BAD_GUY_OF_THE_MONTH

Stainless was a fantastic product; every product/service has to start from somewhere

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by urams »

nicce wrote: post #168
urams wrote: post #116

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It should be noted that this user is basically an OAI shill account. You can look through their history to see this quite clearly. Anecdata, but I have a friend at OAI who claims that on both twitter and HN there is mild coordination of OAI employees to signal boost pro-OAI and anti-competitor messaging.

Does it matter? What of their claims were false? You should undo the claims, not attack the account.

I think you would be right if their post was substantive in relation to the topic, but it's not. It's a list of grievances almost all of which are unrelated. Despite this, it was at the top of the replies to the topic.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dnnddidiej »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #57

I had never heard of Stainless, but it is deeply concerning that Anthropic are able to use monopoly money to kill software at their whim. First Bun, and now this. It's one thing for a corporation to do it with their own money, because at some point the board will ask them why they're wasting money. But Anthropic isn't even profitable. They're doing this with billions of dollars of borrowed money. Same thing with Open…

AI companies are the new tech companies

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by flog »

jypepin wrote: post #30

I worked with Alex (founder of stainless) at Stripe and he's awesome. Happy for him and well deserved. Congrats Alex! :)

I worked with both Alex (stainless) and Jarred (bun) at Stripe, and they were both notable for their high energy and output. I did find it amusing that Anthropic picked both the Xtripes up and wonder how many Xtripes at at Anthropic hiring their ex-coworkers.

Congrats to them both, and I'm not at all surprised! Great acquihires.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by Destiner »

orliesaurus wrote: post #177

I don't understand why they would buy this company? Was stainless doing great? Was stainless doing not great? Did they just want to hire some extra skilled engineers? Did they hire them so OpenAI's SDKs are gonna have a setback? Mmmh

> Did they just want to hire some extra skilled engineers?

This. Probably to work on Anthropic's SDKs and tooling.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by CityOfThrowaway »

rafram wrote: post #188
CityOfThrowaway wrote: post #164

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I've raised venture from a lot of the big firms (and a lot of small firms) and have never had any of them attempt to force me to use anything.

Go to the website of pretty much any AI startupslop, Google who led their series A, then Google who led the series A of the other AI startups (it’s always other AI startups) whose logos they show as users/testimonials/case studies on their landing page. You’ll start seeing a pattern.

This is usually founder-led not investor led

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by bartread »

borski wrote: post #190
windexh8er wrote: post #178

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I'm waiting for the Enterprise space to wise up. For anyone who's ever worked with any reasonably large company as a vendor (especially a small one) you know how painful redlines in legal can be. Why TF haven't enterprise made it more painful for these events? Basically state that if the service is purchased/sold/shuttered prior to the contract expiry date that a significant penalty (e.g. full refund) is required and…

Usually because they need the technology the vendor is selling. But buyers try to insert this language into partner/ biz dev contracts all the time. Much less common for sales.

100%.

A place I worked some years ago we even had an escrow foisted on us by our larger partner in the agreement so that they’d be able to continue running the software we were building if we went under.

Honestly, it was a pain in the ass and meant that for them alone we ended up running an older version of the software than we offered to clients because as we developed its capabilities it became ever more integrated into our core platform and we weren’t about to escrow that.

When the agreement came up for renewal at the three year mark we managed to get the escrow clauses removed.

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