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Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by cma »

BobaFloutist wrote: post #172
nananana9 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also nickel and dime the adults, but only the ones who make the games. It's fine though, because they're nice to players and they've brainwashed them into giving their money to Valve instead of to the developers who actually make the games they fucking play.

When I'm interested in an indie game, I always go first to the developer's website to see if I can just buy a copy directly from them. The vast, vast majority of the time I have to buy it through Steam, maybe Epic, and itch/gog if I'm lucky. It's vanishingly uncommon for them to host the game themselves.

For indies Steam's network lock-in effects are so strong that if you sell without their cut off Steam, instead of same price eating their cut on Steam, you likely do worse. Because selling off-Steam takes one sale out of their algorithm.

Same reason to embed your trailer on your site with YouTube, even if you could afford the bandwidth and keep users from having to watch ad-rolls--self-hosted and the YouTube algorithm will punish you.

A huge part of the high profits portions of the economy is based on this kind of winner take all capture.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by u_fucking_dork »

thrownthatway wrote: post #75
kridsdale1 wrote: post #60

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This is the answer. Enshitification is a requirement of the fiduciary duty of public companies. A private company can stay good forever.

Fiduciary duty doesn’t mean what you think it does. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042915/what-are-som...

Fiduciarily speaking, you don’t know what I think it means

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by l11r »

topham wrote: post #155
jdoe1337halo wrote: post #62

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I agree that 30% is too large of a cut, but what would be appropriate? 15%? Steam does add a ton of value from an immediate audience, solid advertising opportunities, and amazing distribution for the developer.

EA presented their numbers for their online store. They were making something like 12%, and losing money. They ran it at a loss and try to use its existence to declare everyone else overcharging. Apple, Google, Steam. Meanwhile, they were unable to make money, just proving they don't know how business works.

You mean Epic Games, don't you?

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by FloatArtifact »

jvanderbot wrote: post #140
j_maffe wrote: post #131

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Of course 30% seems reasonble to you, you're not the creator of the games. It's quite confusing to me that you're endorsing the side that has an insane ROI instead of the side that is sufferring greatly to make ends meet.

I'm endorsing my side. Not Steam's side, or the creator's side. Maybe their business model is awful, but I love what they do, and what they have done. They have made my linux machine a top tier gaming option, freeing me from the only use of windows left. They have brought me the steam deck, which has a thriving accessory market due to their creative commons licensing. Etc etc. They are pro consumer. I want steam to c…

Regarding the 30% cut. Developers can actually generate steam keys and publish them on third-party sites which can be redeemed by users on Steam. Developers then get 100% of the profit.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by artursapek »

herpdyderp wrote: post #8
roer wrote: post #4

I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each. Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Contro…

Sometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.

Valve practically has a monopoly on PC gaming, I think they're pretty fat and happy too ;D

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by fareesh »

herpdyderp wrote: post #8
roer wrote: post #4

I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each. Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Contro…

Sometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.

son of gaben may live upto the legend, otherwise it ends with him

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by lysace »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #160
herpdyderp wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.

They're a private company. Not all private companies are good, but all public ones inevitably turn terrible.

There are some counter-examples of companies that have been publicly traded for a long-ish time and still aren't "terrible":

Berkshire Hathaway, Novo Nordisk, ASML, TSMC, Saab, Atlas Copco, Texas Instruments.

(Perhaps not that many from the US though, relatively speaking? Not sure TBH.)

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by robotswantdata »

herpdyderp wrote: post #8
roer wrote: post #4

I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each. Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Contro…

Sometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.

Don’t mention the cs case gambling

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by eNV25 »

nerdjon wrote: post #153
poisonborz wrote: post #29

Even if Valve and Steam is great and overall a blessing for the PC space, I don't like the direction they take with this controller. It only works with Steam, it can't work on a desktop OS without it, despite standard layout. It is a subtle move towards a walled garden.

> It only works with Steam, it can't work on a desktop OS without it I was very curious about this, No video I saw even said anything about the Steam Software being needed, and is extremely disappointing, on my computer I make a point that I only have steam running if I am playing a steam game. If I am not it is not running and it does not auto start. Now if it works with steam closed, I am slightly more ok with it b…

This is a windows issue, not a hardware issue.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by ux266478 »

nananana9 wrote: post #56
benoau wrote: post #19

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We let kids gamble so much money in games that they don't have to nickel and dime the adults.

They also nickel and dime the adults, but only the ones who make the games. It's fine though, because they're nice to players and they've brainwashed them into giving their money to Valve instead of to the developers who actually make the games they fucking play.

Nah, I'm happy to pay the guild, they put that 30% to good use. I just wish their partner portal wasn't a gigantic pile of crap in return.
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