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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by stefan_ »

ddkto wrote: post #57

The best part is that copilot commented on the PR saying that this doesn’t actually change the behaviour, creates inconsistency in the codebase and suggested reverting the change! (This comment seems to have been ignored…) > The configuration schema default was changed to "all", but the runtime fallback in extensions/git/src/repository.ts still calls config.get('addAICoAuthor', 'off'). This is now out of sync and can…

I also liked the bot posting screenshot diffs that are all false positives, while apparently not capturing the default change (is it not in some menu somewhere?)

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by TeriyakiBomb »

OutOfHere wrote: post #180
TeriyakiBomb wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I said AI has utility but drives irrational levels of investment. Crypto has little utility besides a place to gamble, con credulous people and otherwise act as a really shitty store of wealth. Most modern crypto projects barely bother to promise to do anything useful let alone achieve anything useful, which the overwhelming majority do not. These aren't beliefs but statements of fact.

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Ok. Well have fun. Bye.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by smaudet »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #184
rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

> Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. Mmm... I think I missed that part.

Not everyone bought it, but they campaigned hard...and now see it was all just a dog and pony show. The hold-outs were right...

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by bojan »

tln wrote: post #159
low_tech_love wrote: post #32

Isn’t this a kind of “leopards ate my face” situation? I thought we had all “agreed” that letting AI write code and take control of software repositories is good, even if we have no idea what is going on beyond a thin surface layer, because well it’s fast and we can fix it later and lol who needs testing? My customers are my testers. And now it’s suddenly bad because the developer is the customer?

The sneaky commit modification is triggered by very modest usage of AI such as auto-completion. Look, if an agent writes the code and the commit message then adding a Co-authored-by by default is ok. Not even showing it before the commit is made is not, and adding the message when AI was just completing code is not.

I genuinely think it's not ok even then. Copilot is a tool, one of many I use. That tool has no business polluting commit messages without my knowledge.

The appended message isn't even adding any new information, as in this day and age a vast majority of commits is probably "co-authored" by an LLM.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by sdevonoes »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #144
outside1234 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BUT it is a trap: https://arxiv.org/html/2603.20617v1

One things for sure I won't be buying any SaaS, streaming, or ordering from Amazon if I have no future prospects for work. I already stopped most of my subscriptions because of a layoff unrelated to AI. We buy food and go for walks as entertainment. It's been refreshing but also obviously scary.

Didn’t get the “scary” part. I also keep my entertainment to the minimum dependencies possible. I try to rely on stuff I own: music cds, iso videogames + emulators, physical books or ebooks (thanks Anna), exercise outdoors… ditching streaming like netflix/youtube, buying crap on amazon, uber, etc

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by thephyber »

ryandrake wrote: post #108
krainboltgreene wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. It's the bourgeoisie dream: A means of production that also does the labor 24/7 and can't complain, infinitely spawnable. Theoretical slavery+, so of course they're throwing everything into the furnace for it.

These next few years are the real turning point. If they are right about AI and robotic workforces, then it's checkmate--they don't need us anymore, and we're next for the furnace. If they're wrong... well, I don't know... Will there be any consequences? Maybe a few people lose a few percent of their net worth.

There will always be jobs for private security, firefighters, and utility repairmen to protect / restore the data centers when people inevitably attack them.

There will be a period of rapid change. If we are lucky, the political class will see and adjust policy quickly. Otherwise we will see US urban areas gutted like the Rust Belt was after NAFTA / WTO. They are making the same mistakes but in a different industry.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by conartist6 »

brazukadev wrote: post #190
mohamedkoubaa wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Principal engineer balks at bad UX when the PM should know better (it's their job) 2023: Ah well I guess we can't do it 2025: you're fired. Hey kid we hired two weeks ago, implement bad idea please

That's how I got my first opportunity 20 years ago

:'D

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by smaudet »

storus wrote: post #148
le-mark wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google will definitely lose. Llms supplants search. But not the old document search which they stopped doing long ago. Add in the fact that open weight models are 6-12 months behind frontier models means AI companies aren’t building a moat, they’re on a treadmill. And treadmills don’t justify the valuations OR the hype. AI companies are in trouble.

I see one profitable enterprise for AI that involves spying on everyone, managing their lives (or otherwise) tightly, automating foreign conquests and needing to make only the top decisions while delegating everything else, like a king. I can see a group or one could say a class of people that would happily invest in such future.

Exactly. I keep saying, AI is not useful to us. There will be no AI companies.

Even this supposed profitable enterprise, the people involved are absolutely too moronic to be able to control the thing they try to invent, it will just be a matter of time before it turns around and eliminates them as well...

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by makeitdouble »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #142
rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

> Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. Probably they thought the new generations forgot about how awful they were in the not so distant past. I think they set it all on fire because greed got the better of them again.

> greed

Is a greed/not greed scale really useful to discuss company behaviors ?

I wanted to say I get what you mean, but even thinking about the company I root for the most, I can't think of a point where they're not driven by their desire to make a lot more money.

If your point is that there's good and bad ways to seek money, I'm not sure it's properly encompassed by "greed", which I interpret as the intensity of a desire, not its nature or validity.

To you "greed" might mean something else, but is it properly conveyed ?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#200

Post by thephyber »

le-mark wrote: post #121
ryandrake wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These next few years are the real turning point. If they are right about AI and robotic workforces, then it's checkmate--they don't need us anymore, and we're next for the furnace. If they're wrong... well, I don't know... Will there be any consequences? Maybe a few people lose a few percent of their net worth.

Google will definitely lose. Llms supplants search. But not the old document search which they stopped doing long ago. Add in the fact that open weight models are 6-12 months behind frontier models means AI companies aren’t building a moat, they’re on a treadmill. And treadmills don’t justify the valuations OR the hype. AI companies are in trouble.

Not all AI companies are the same.

Some are piling on masses of debt to built capacity (eg. Oracle). Others are just reinvesting the profits from the rest of their company (eg. Google, Meta).

Anthropic’s moat is their best tool, Claude Code.

OpenAI’s moat is the brand of ChatGPT, once the fastest growing app in the history of the world.

It’s possible that open weight models keep pace, but it’s also possible that the investment to train them becomes prohibitively expensive and open weight models cease to keep pace with the large foundation model companies.

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