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Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

wincy wrote: post #169

Binding of Isaac is a game that takes hundreds of hours to beat, and worked well on iPad. It cost $15. It was removed and so Edmund McMillen the creator resolved to never publish on Apple platforms again. Disappointing for me because his new game is Windows only, but I can’t blame him. I could have sworn there was a discussion about this years ago but I went looking for it on HN and just found a comment I made years…

There is a windows emulator called gamehub which can run this game on Android. Android is still leas restrictive than ios

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by mrexroad »

__s wrote: post #163
phendrenad2 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm intentionally not reading your post, but the "it's old so I can spoil it" is never an acceptable stance in a world where they keep making more people. The world doesn't begin and end with your experience.

snape kills dumbledore

sigh. this exact type of post spoiled this plot development for my kid when they were getting into reading and were only a few books in. not everyone has been around as long as you and I.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by goodmythical »

pasquinelli wrote: post #175
brookst wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is false and it weakens your position. https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-g... https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-prevails-l... https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_cases_against_Google... https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/19/eu-orders-apple-to-open-up-a... …and there are many more. You can say those aren’t enoug…

can you explain how someone being incorrect about something weakens their position? i assume the position in question is that their should be more trust busting. "there have been these antitrust actions" isn't actually a counter argument to "there should be more antitrust actions", so it doesn't weaken the position, unless i'm not understanding what you mean by that. you know what my favorite fallacy is? the fallacy…

Because the argument wasn't "there should be more" but was in fact "there have been none"?

It's pretty easy to weaken such a strong position if you can provide not just one but multiple pieces of evidence to the contrary.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by Neikius »

brookst wrote: post #125
echelon wrote: post #88

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We do not need our hyperscaler minders telling us what content we can and cannot consume. This ought to be grounds to litigate antitrust. This should not be happening. We need web-based app installs without scare walls ("downloading from the internet is dangerous"), without hidden settings menus to enable them ("Settings > Apps > Special app access > Install unknown apps"), and without any interference or meddling fr…

I’m generally with you, but I am not prepared to say companies should be forced to host and distribute content they believe reflects badly on them. That and I don’t see how Google and Apple can both be monopolies in mobile. Is this the “Ford has a monopoly on Mustangs” argument? Never found that persuasive. Now, reframe as duopoly, and maybe layer in that a platform owner who curates their App Store must allow altern…

Well they are big enough to be called infrastructure now. Similar to payment providers. Them removing things essentially removes them from existence for 99 percent.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by alterom »

brookst wrote: post #125
echelon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do not need our hyperscaler minders telling us what content we can and cannot consume. This ought to be grounds to litigate antitrust. This should not be happening. We need web-based app installs without scare walls ("downloading from the internet is dangerous"), without hidden settings menus to enable them ("Settings > Apps > Special app access > Install unknown apps"), and without any interference or meddling fr…

I’m generally with you, but I am not prepared to say companies should be forced to host and distribute content they believe reflects badly on them. That and I don’t see how Google and Apple can both be monopolies in mobile. Is this the “Ford has a monopoly on Mustangs” argument? Never found that persuasive. Now, reframe as duopoly, and maybe layer in that a platform owner who curates their App Store must allow altern…

>I’m generally with you, but I am not prepared to say companies should be forced to host and distribute content they believe reflects badly on them.

There's platforms, and there's Apple and Google.

You don't need to say "platforms" when you talk about the two companies that control the 99.99999% of the mobile ecosystem.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by alterom »

stronglikedan wrote: post #137
echelon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do not need our hyperscaler minders telling us what content we can and cannot consume. This ought to be grounds to litigate antitrust. This should not be happening. We need web-based app installs without scare walls ("downloading from the internet is dangerous"), without hidden settings menus to enable them ("Settings > Apps > Special app access > Install unknown apps"), and without any interference or meddling fr…

nah, companies should be able to put all the content warnings they want on their own products, full stop

They weren't talking about the warning.

The warning was cited as an explanation as to why that game was delisted.

The objection was to Google wielding the power of picking and choosing which controversial materials the users are allowed to see.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by alterom »

goodmythical wrote: post #193
pasquinelli wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can you explain how someone being incorrect about something weakens their position? i assume the position in question is that their should be more trust busting. "there have been these antitrust actions" isn't actually a counter argument to "there should be more antitrust actions", so it doesn't weaken the position, unless i'm not understanding what you mean by that. you know what my favorite fallacy is? the fallacy…

Because the argument wasn't "there should be more" but was in fact "there have been none"? It's pretty easy to weaken such a strong position if you can provide not just one but multiple pieces of evidence to the contrary.

The argument was they feel they are invincible in their [monopolist] position, and that argument is only made stronger by the cases you cited as none of the outcomes really moved the needle in that aspect.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by jllyhill »

esperent wrote: post #121
jhbadger wrote: post #3

DDLC is a disturbing (good, but disturbing) game that opens as a bright cheerful one. So long as the description explained what the user is in for later on, I think Google shouldn't have done this. I haven't seen the Android version; I played it on PC, but as it is basically a "visual novel" I doubt there was very much difference between them.

I downloaded the Android version yesterday to see what everyone is on about. It's absolutely stuffed with trigger warnings. I had to click through about 4 screens saying that yes, I'm definitely ok with seeing disturbing content, and there's even a setting that will warn you before each individual disturbing screen. I played 30 minutes and realized my personal trigger is sickeningly "cute" anime girls, and there's no…

I wouldn't recommend trying if you don't like it already. In order for the twist to have any impact the game needs to pretend to be something else and the developer have chosen it to be a visual novel with 0 substance. It would be cute anime girls yapping about nothing in the most non interesting way possible for a couple of hours before anything worth your attention happens. I'm somewhat of an anime slice of life trash enjoyer and even I couldn't force myself to watch a full let's play of this part (even with commentary adding something to latch to) and had to skip a half of it to get to the twist faster. Doesn't worth it.

Re: Google removes "Doki Doki Literature Club" from Google Play

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Post by perbu »

kstenerud wrote: post #183
brookst wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m generally with you, but I am not prepared to say companies should be forced to host and distribute content they believe reflects badly on them. That and I don’t see how Google and Apple can both be monopolies in mobile. Is this the “Ford has a monopoly on Mustangs” argument? Never found that persuasive. Now, reframe as duopoly, and maybe layer in that a platform owner who curates their App Store must allow altern…

Remember the days when you could just run whatever software you wanted on your hardware?

I feel like this is captures the point very well. Google removing this software, means that for 99% of the users on the platform, the choice to play this gets taken away from user.
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