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US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

surgical_fire wrote: post #164
robinsoncrusue wrote: post #138

Always look at the actions, not the talks. Reality on the ground is: US has been amassing troops in tens of thousands. Their mercenary IDF is claiming territory like a field day. Market has barely capitulated (which is the only thing this admin care about). I expect this is just Trump buying time until he launches ground invasion after two weeks of failed negotiation. You don't spend millions sending tens of thousand…

Tens of thousands of troops are not really enough to invade a country the size of Iran. The US used an order of magnitude more in Iraq, which had a third of the population, and a smaller and more geographically forgiving territory.

Yeah, but the Iranian armed forces have been obliterated...

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Post by phainopepla2 »

robinsoncrusue wrote: post #138

Always look at the actions, not the talks. Reality on the ground is: US has been amassing troops in tens of thousands. Their mercenary IDF is claiming territory like a field day. Market has barely capitulated (which is the only thing this admin care about). I expect this is just Trump buying time until he launches ground invasion after two weeks of failed negotiation. You don't spend millions sending tens of thousand…

> Trump will "negotiate" and then in the middle of negotiation start a ground invasion just like they did in the past while they map all the military targets for ground invasion (which is hard to when missiles flying all the time)

Why is it hard map military targets while missiles are flying? Don't missile launches reveal targets? And I would assume that the mapping is mostly done via satellite, which aren't affected by missiles

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Post by hypeatei »

dboreham wrote: post #177
hypeatei wrote: post #153

Didn't the US and Israel gather intelligence during previous "talks" which ended up with senior Iranian leadership dead? It seems unlikely that this relationship would be fixed by now, and a deal would require big concessions from one side... of which one is polling real badly at home currently. Between the threats to NATO allies, high oil prices, lifting of sanctions on Russian oil, US personnel losing their lives,…

He was convinced for other reasons to proceed with the operation. Reasons to do with what might happen to him personally if not.

I don't know if you're implying kompromat or assassination but I think the explanation that they played into his ego and got him to do their dirty work in Iran is much simpler and makes more sense. Every President before Trump has told Israel no when they asked for "assistance" with Iran.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by dang »

slg wrote: post #65

I wonder why this post is worthy of staying on the HN front page but all the articles about Trump's threats that "A whole civilization will die tonight" got flag killed. I guess the president making genocidal threats isn't "interesting" enough to meet HN's moderation standards.

I was just answering a similar comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47683437.

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Post by Rotdhizon »

chatmasta wrote: post #126

Better article with text: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/07/trump-iran-w... > Israel will also agree to the two-week ceasefire, Axios reported, citing an Israeli official, adding that the ceasefire would enter effect as soon as the blockade of the strait of Hormuz ceased There’s the catch.

The US is one thing but there is no possible way Israel will stop bombing. They will openly say they will, and continue to do so. It just gives them more breathing room to calculate bigger and more serious strikes. Israel has literally nothing to lose. The US is taking all the heat for any actions in Iran. Israel and Iran are mortal enemies, one can not continue to exist while the other lives, this is how they view it. Iran wants Israel erased, Israel wants Iran erased. This isn't going to stop until one of them suffers catastrophic damage.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by natpalmer1776 »

surgical_fire wrote: post #151
Bubble1296 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the other Middle East countries involved such as the UAE and what about Europe?

Europe, thankfully, stayed out of this mess. Some countries even rejected to even give logistical support to the US.

I wonder if uninvolved nations will also be required to pay the safe passage fees.

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Post by mhb »

tdeck wrote: post #86
idle_zealot wrote: post #80

We already attacked Iran twice during "talks," is there any indication that we mean it this time, or are we just going to bomb them again while negotiations are ongoing?

This will be the one ceasefire that Israel respects?

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by stacktraceyo »

100ms wrote: post #48

I don't understand enough about the US system of government. Are there any hopes of seeing Trump unseated before his term is up? If not for the astonishing damage he's doing to the western world, then only for the sheer fatigue from having every media outlet saturated by him on a daily basis.

I don’t get how congress doesn’t have the power to deny/approve this war. Dont even impeach, dont you have to get congressional approval for this stuff?

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by danny_codes »

cheriot wrote: post #102

Let's not forget the road to war started in 2016 when Trump walked into the White House at withdrew from the JCPOA. He's wanted the war for years, got it, and lost it.

Hey now, the JCPOA was designed to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, and was working effectively at doing that. That’s completely different from what Trump is demanding now, which is to prevent Iran from getting nuclear..

Wait I think Trump dementia’d again

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