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Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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I've long suspected that (at least my own) tinnitus was a neurological phenomenon, seeing how it's always been with me at various "levels of presence", from imperceptible to so loud I can't hear anything else, I've always felt it as an "inner sound".. Had multiple hearing tests, and nothing in particular showed up. It's also weird because it changes somewhat in frequency, both down to frequencies my 40 year old ears can register and up beyond what I can actually hear when doing a test..

But especially the coming and going and how it seems affected to level of tiredness or amount of sleep I got.. Of course, reading the article made me aware of it and now it's loud than before..

I've had strong symptoms of adhd my whole life, but never thought much of it (except as a lack of self dicipline and general failure of a broken robot to impersonate a real human), but as demands on my performance rose to real-adult levels with a young child and duties beyond not dying, I decided to tell the doc how it had generally felt like to be myself, at which point I was referred to someone with a specialty in broken brains, and we quickly agreed that while I wasn't going to become normal, certain stimulants at least provided me with sufficient energy to carry out most of the functions expected by an adult member of society with actual responsibilities.

And so, over the past.. more than a year, I've gotten to experience a little bit of everything as my brain gets to oscillate between being slightly oversaturated to absolutely drained of certain neurotransmitters in a way that at the same time feels slightly unsustainable and the only alternative where I get to not be absolutely miserable all the time.

The point of that story, being, these "phantom precepts", fits the bill somewhat well. I've always had a very conscious experience of common neurological phenomenon which are naturally present but largely-unnoticed by many (auras, visual snow, floaters, phosphenes, tinnitus, afterimages) so I'm probably a bit one the sensitive side, and, the medication seems to have a quite interesting effect on these as well, among them, I noticed the ABSENCE of noticing my clothes touching my skin.. I am no longer acutely aware of the cooling sensation of inhaling air through my nose, and I rarely hear the beat of my heart in my ears.. Maybe the weirdest effect is on saccades, in a conversation, looking from one person to the next seems to be as instant as before, but the blur of my eyes moving between points of focus is gone, it's kind of jarring, just poof, one picture, then another.. nothing in between.

I now seem to be able to influence my attention somewhat, that is, to do whatever that cognitive regulation is called, so that my focus shifts to a subject I need to do but have no interest in doing (oh wait, that's why I got the medication), but it does make me wonder, if tinnitus is just one of the more obvious (and therefore common) neurological processes that "pokes through" maybe perception of sound and attention (and maybe therefore also conscious experience of sound) have evolved to be more strongly linked (because if you notice the predator sneaking up on you, you get to not be eaten).

Maybe this stronger link is why tinnitus is so obvious, and maybe sleep is instrumental in regulating consciousness, so if consciousness is differently regulated, or less regulated, maybe it's easier for the phenomenon to "seep through".

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

Sorry to hear this. I similarly woke up one day with bi-lateral tinnitus at about an 8/10 in loudness. Thought I was going to lose my mind. After about 9 days one morning the right ear completely resolved and the left ear was at about a 5/10. Very, very, very long story short, I did a ton of digging and experimenting and realized it was related to a neck injury (a lot of people with whiplash have short-long term tinn…

Can confirm.

I've had like 2/10 tinnitus for all my life, can't remember the last time I heard "silence".

Got a C5/C6 hernia a year ago, about 6 months after that MASSIVE tinnitus in my right ear and clear increase in the left. Like "can't hear shit" levels of noise.

Eventually I figured out that doing a basic shoulder workout + going on a walk eased it off in a few hours. A month ago, due to a doctor's suggestion, I discovered that taking muscle relaxants just before going to sleep a bit, I've woken up with maybe 3-4/10 tinnitus a few times.

Definitely a neck thing.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

#193

I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

My dad had tinnitus and it bothered him relentlessly. He was constantly following potential new treatments, talking to doctors about it, etc. I have it too. I've taken the approach of truly accepting it: "I will hear these sounds the rest of my life, and I'm truly okay with that". As a result it doesn't give me anxiety or bother me, and I find it helps it fade into the background. The more you focus on it (and let it…

My ear doctor suggested the myNoise app[0] for me, specifically the Neuromodulator and Brown noise sounds.

The Neuromodulator[1] is a random-ish noise field that ... confuses? the brain after a while and lets you forget the tinnitus - at lest temporarily. The noise isn't "real" it's the brain generating it due to faulty signals, so giving it a bunch of noise helps somehow.

Brown noise[2] was specifically suggested for older people as it has more stuff in the frequencies we still hear naturally :D

As a happy coincidence my partner AND dogs sleep better with the brown noise on, they all tend to wake up to the smallest of noises - this helps with it.

[0] https://mynoise.net

[1] https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/neuromodulationTonesGenera...

[2] https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/whiteNoiseGenerator.php

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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uBlock Origin reduces it to an almost reasonable number of three embeds plus the "trending" section. But the cookies consent modal is also disgusting

I don't really get anything apart from a couple of links to science alert stuff. uBlock lite and the "I still don't care about cookies" extension. I tried turning those off to have a look and my what a lot of ads. It sort of puzzles me that people put up with them.

An analogy: they're sort of like chronic tinnitus. After a few years you don't even notice them.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

#195
I can cause tinnitus by pinching my nose, closing my throat, and manipulating my throat to pressurize my skull.. like one does to "pop their ears" after changing altitudes to hear/speak properly again.

If my ears start ringing like I feel tinnitus has arrived, I've found it goes away by cycling this pressure a couple times.

YMMV

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

#196

Personal anecdote: removing a lower wisdom tooth that was close to the jaw nerve nearly cured my tinnitus back in the day. The surgeon dentist was really surprised by this and could not evoke any similar cases in their practice before mine.

It's interesting that worked. It reminds me of Scott Adams' story where he lost his voice due to spasming and got it back through surgery that cut one of the nerves involved.

(https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/spasmodic-dysphonia-re...)

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

#197

I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

have it too. no idea when i got it, probably a very long time ago. having said that i don't really care and mostly don't notice it. but if i think about it, then i hear a constant feeeeeeeee...eeep. but then i just forget about it. and that's coming from somebody who is very noise sensitive.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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I first got it in 2015 after playing Fallout 4 almost nonstop for the entire weekend. The game ran poorly and the low stuttery fps caused a massive migraine in my head. I took Tylenol and went to sleep and woke up with it ringing in one of my ears which eventually moved to both. The doctors were pretty useless and said they couldn't see anything wrong and to just live with it. My brain eventually figured out how to t…

Tom Blomfield, the Monzo guy / YC partner fixed his with that

https://x.com/t_blom/status/1810459463725588861

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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I'd say i'm sorry to hear about your 60 beat per second heart rate but by the time you read this you are surely dead. RIP

60 bps is a fine HR, if you are implying it isn't Edit: WHOOPSIE DAISY

Yeah, 60hz isn't a pulse, it's a bass hum. It means you are a robot operating in the US and you have a poorly filtered power supply.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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WRT “mechanical damage” — I feel you. Standing in front of the stage feeling your organs vibrate in time to the music is fucking magic. I won’t say that it’s worth the tinnitus, but I am happy I have some memories of a trade-off, you know? FWIW I still go to shows sometimes, and stand right in front of the stage to feel my eyeballs vibrating. I wear good ear protection, though, and feel no pain. Even though the music…

> I wear good ear protection, though, and feel no pain. Yeah, I've got a variety of Etymotic "concert" ear plugs (mainly ER20s), a collection of Loop ear plugs, some from Flare (titanium, aluminium), and various other of differing construction that live in my "gig bag" (small bag that holds phone etc. without causing security to freak out.) I find that if I don't wear ear plugs at a gig or even the cinema, I'll have…

It sounds worse for you than for me, and I’ll tip out some scotch in your honor next time I have some.
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