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Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by JohnMakin »

It's so many things other than the keyboard I notice are just like, "wtf, who and why decided this was a good idea?"

In safari browser, if you want to go to the menu where you can favorite/bookmark a page, the tiles on the menu are literally different and in different order every time. Sometimes you might need to press an additional button to find what you're looking for, sometimes it's there, sometimes clicking "favorite" will just go "ok, favorited" message, other times it asks for an extra prompt. Like, why? Just be consistent, I can adjust to all the "PM trying to save their role by reinventing something that isn't needed" like liquid glass, but the usability itself suffers all over the place in the latest ios releases. It's very difficult to understand, because up until a little while ago it had been consistently very good.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

#192

Post by ssgodderidge »

somebehemoth wrote: post #136
splittydev wrote: post #63

I'm one of the developers of Mister Keyboard. If you want, you can give it a try! Everything essential is completely free, maybe it works out for you.

For something that is as personal as a keyboard, it would be good to know what "Usage data" you are collecting and how it is used. I am eager to switch away from ios keyboard, but I do not trust most developers to have access to what I type. I understand it is "not linked to me", but this is an area where heavy skepticism is warranted.

This is exactly the reason why I haven't looked into other keyboards. Gboard seems like a google-sponsored key logger? Anyone know of some good privacy-focused ones?

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

#194

Post by DangitBobby »

russdill wrote: post #102
Beestie wrote: post #43

Android: Here's the phone; knock yourself out Apple: Father knows best (but Father is getting old and sometimes forgets things) Windows: If only we understood what the ancestors knew

Just to play both sides here, on pixel there is a news feed if you swipe the home screen right. It is now infused with ai summaries rather than the first few lines of the story with no way to go back. Course, I can switch to a different launcher, but it makes it much less of a "batteries included" sort of product.

There is a setting to disable this. Long press on your home screen background > Home Settings > Toggle "Swipe to access Google app"

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

#195

Post by JohnMakin »

wilkystyle wrote: post #82
fodkodrasz wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also add Liquid Glass, it strains the eyes. Even siri got worse, when I say call now it does some location based search, and calls sonebody, when near home it is a doctor, when on the other side of the river it is a flower shop, at othe rplaces other random non-contacts, with a contact having the sting it used for search, as her nickname is always part of the called person… It used to work flawlessly as expected… I w…

The most frustrating aspect of Siri's quality decline is that super-basic things inexplicably stop working. For years I have been able to say "call " and Siri called my wife. A couple weeks ago she started dialing another contact I haven't talked to in 15 years with a similarly-pronounced name (but different spelling). I had to delete the old contact to stop that behavior from happening.

They said it was Apple Intelligence - they didn't tell you how intelligent it would be!

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

#196

Post by raylad »

srmatto wrote: post #174
DamnInteresting wrote: post #151

@ozzyphantom: You might consider being more specific about your grievances in the text of your countdown page. As it stands, it's a bit vague, describing the keyboard as "broken" and autocorrect as "nearly useless". Sure, the video you link to is more descriptive, but it's a lot to ask of a visitor to click through and watch a separate video. As for the underlying issue, I have experienced similar typing issues on my…

The recent changes to the iOS keyboard and text editing in general have been very counter productive for me as well. Tap to select doesn't really work the same way anymore and the logic of it isn't clear to me which makes it unpredictable. Typing accurately itself has gotten really difficult. I used to be a pretty quick typist on the iOS keyboard but now I find myself looking for my Mac to send a message from there o…

Also why did they get rid of select all? Is there any excuse for that?

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

#197

Post by ddtaylor »

> I randomly tried Android again for a few months last spring. Using a functioning keyboard was revelatory. But I came crawling back to iOS because I'm weak and the orange iPhone was pretty and the Pixel 10 was boring and I caved to the blue bubble pressure. But the keyboard on this beautiful phone is worse than ever.

Most of those problems aren't solved by software. You are using your phone as a fashion item.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

#198

Post by throwway120385 »

meatmanek wrote: post #188
nozzlegear wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdote but I've never had issues with the keyboard, or with Siri mishearing me (just to touch on another common pain point that people talk about re: Apple tech). I've always interpreted stories like this as the people who are most affected by it being vocal and speaking out (as they should), while the majority who aren't just have nothing to say because it all works fine. > Worse, it seems that proprietary means y…

anecdatum: I've encountered the dumb keyboard behavior and haven't written any scathing blog posts about it, I've just grumbled out loud and upvoted the ones I've seen. So consider the possibility that many people are affected but haven't reached the threshold of writing something about it.

Yeah I used to love the iOS keyboard 5 or 6 years ago but now I find it completely baffling, and the way it goes back into my sentence to change words around the word I just typed is very frustrating as I will then have to edit those words back.

Dear Tim Apple, I meant exactly what I typed please stop changing it because your product manager doesn't think I know English.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by causal »

lxndrdagreat wrote: post #2

> You were the "it just works" company. Now you're just a fruit that I used to know. This had me simultaneously chuckling and sad, because it feels very true.

Switching from Android, I was shocked by how much in fact did not just work. I kept a running list of basic features that were clearly broken.

Especially around text editing. It seems like they made some fundamental mistakes with their text inputs that they are playing hard defense on. I never know if a given field is going to respond to long-press, double tap, or what context menu I will get if any.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by bee_rider »

munk-a wrote: post #147
BinStorm wrote: post #115

I love the fervor with which this is written, but the threat is so weak I literally chuckled. Imagine your an exec or manager on the team for keyboard development. You read this, get to the end to discover the user is gonna switch devices for... 2 whole calander years? What's that amount to? Maybe 2 device upgrades on If your a die hard gotta have the newest latest model phone each year. Then what? you'll be back? Th…

The article ended up making it to HN and, at least the discussion I'm seeing, is highly critical of Apple's recent design changes. There isn't a threat you can construct that'd throw 20% of Apple's profit into uncertainty, but losing their mantle of technical excellence is something that will deeply damage Apple in the long term. Microsoft seems hell bent on being a worse example right now but if the grade of Apple's…

People complain about everything on HackerNews, if I was Apple I’d 100% ignore us.

The recent kerfluffle has been all the Liquid Glass stuff, I hear lots of people in my offline circle who aren’t reading every phone UI review who are trying various schemes to avoid or mitigate this update. It’s pretty bad! (The keyboard sucking is water under the bridge at this point, I think).

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