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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by twisteriffic »

pixl97 wrote: post #134
kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

Cries in dapper dapr

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by stoobs »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #159
GaProgMan wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True story: a lot of the Microsoft engineers I interact with actually do use Apple hardware. Admittedly, I onto interact with the devs on the .NET (and related technologies) departments. Specifically WHY they use Apple hardware is something I can only speculate on. Presumably it's easier to launch Windows on Mac than the other way around, and they would likely need to do that as .NET and its related technologies are…

You're an MVP? Minimum viable product? Most valuable player?

These days it could also be Most vaunted prompt

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

mgkimsal wrote: post #154
timr wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. I understand your point about naming, but it's always helpful to know what the products do.

> No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. When it came out, Github Copilot was an autocomplete tool. That's it. That may be what the OP was originally using. That's what I used... 2 years ago. That they change the capabilities but don't change the name, yet change names on services that don't change capabilities further illustrates the OP's point, I would say.

To be fair, Github Copilot (itself a horrible name) has followed the same arc as Cursor, from AI-enhanced editor with smart autocomplete, to more of an IDE that now supports agentic "vibe coding" and "vibe editing" as well.

I do agree that conceptually there is a big difference between an editor, even with smart autocomplete, and an agentic coding tool, as typified by Claude Code and other CLI tools, where there is not necessarily any editor involved at all.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Octoth0rpe »

mirekrusin wrote: post #186
timr wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. I understand your point about naming, but it's always helpful to know what the products do.

...it gets better: GitHub Copilot is a service, you can buy subscription from here https://github.com/features/copilot . GitHub Copilot is available from website https://github.com/copilot together with services like Spark (not available from other places), Spaces, Agents etc. GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension which you can download at https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c... and use from VSCo…

I'm currently using GitHub copilot via Zed and tbh I have no idea which of these this relates to. Perhaps a combination of

> GitHub Copilot is a service

and maybe, the api behind

> GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension

???

What an absolute mess.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by mrweasel »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #120
m-schuetz wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand how Microsoft lets standby remain broken. I can never leave the PC in my bedroom ij standby because it will randomly wake up and blast the coolers.

Probably because the quality of PC BIOS/firmware is generally abysmal and getting vendors to follow spec is like herding cats.

Sadly even if Microsoft had a few lineups of laptops that they'd use internally and recommend, companies would still get the shitty ones, if it saves them $10 per device.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by OsrsNeedsf2P »

paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

For all the hype I see about Gemini, we integrated it with our product (an AI agent) and it consistently performs worse[0] than Claude Sonnet, Opus, and ChatGPT 5.2

[0] based on user Thumbs up/Thumbs down voting

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by whobre »

kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Not that I disagree, but this is nothing compared to the ".NET" craze in the early 2000s. Everything had to have ".NET" in its name even if it had absolutely nothing to do with the actual .NET technology.

There was also "Active" before that, but .NET was next level crazy...

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by leoedin »

paxys wrote: post #138

Crazy to think that Github Copilot was the first mainstream AI coding tool. It had all the hype and momentum in the world, and Microsoft decided to do...absolutely nothing with it.

I use Copilot in VSCode at work, and it's pretty effective. You can choose from quite a few models, and it has the agentic editing you'd expect from an IDE based AI development tool. I don't know if it does things like browser integration because I don't do frontend work. It's definitely improved over the last 6 months.

There's also all the other Copilot branded stuff which has varying use. The web based chat is OK, but I'm not sure which model powers it. Whatever it is it can be very verbose and doesn't handle images very well. The Office stuff seems to be completely useless so far.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by adamrezich »

kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

> Laptops sell with Copilot buttons now.

Is it the context menu key? Or did they do another Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Win+L thing?

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