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Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by amluto »

phantasmish wrote: post #153
eoskx wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had similar observations with different behaviors in Safari and Finder. One would think the quality of Apple's software would be increasing with the usage of Swift over Objective-C, but the opposite seems to be true.

There are like a half-dozen blatant bugs I encounter between daily and weekly in Safari. Text input and textarea editing is buggy in a couple ways, Apple Pay has a positioning bug where sometimes its bottom button is about 1/3 off the screen, certain elements on a couple pages smear when I scroll (but only sometimes). Not even counting ways the keyboard itself is worse now. I haven’t seen browsing this buggy outside…

If you switch Safari’s tab bar mode to bottom (i.e. restoring the sort-of-one-touch controls that existed before iOS 26), textareas become utterly and completely broken. It’s almost impossible to reply to an HN message, for example.

This bug is so blatant that I assumed my would have been fixed by now, but no.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by troupo »

kibwen wrote: post #127
7e wrote: post #119

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Switch to what? Windows is horrible and Linux is just as bad (but in different ways).

Windows is horrible, yes. But Linux definitely isn't "just as bad" as MacOS, it's already better, and it keeps getting better every year while MacOS keeps getting worse.

> But Linux definitely isn't "just as bad" as MacOS, it's already better

Is this better Linux in the room with us [1]?

My main gaming computer used to be Windows until this year when Windows has gone completely to shit. So first I ran Omarchy for a few months, and now running CachyOS because it's better for gaming.

Yeah... Even with things going to shit MacOS is still a better proposition (at least I have a working sleep and restore, and the OS remembers which windows need to be open next time you restart/go out of sleep, and in which locations). Though I haven't upgraded to Liquid Ass yet.

[1] Let's count the number of "oh, you chose the wrong distribution" and count the number of different distirbutions people will come up with that are 100% guaranteed to not have issues.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by heresie-dabord »

7e wrote: post #119
talentedcoin wrote: post #117

These articles always make me laugh. Everyone complains and then everyone lines up and buys Macs again. macOS has been on the decline for literally years now. If you really want things to change put your money where your mouth is and switch!

Switch to what? Windows is horrible and Linux is just as bad (but in different ways).

> Windows is horrible and Linux is just as bad

I will civilly contradict you about both MW11 and about Linux.

MW11 is rather good for usability. The failures at this point are the egregious telemetry, the spyware misfeatures (e.g. Recall), and the AI slop being squeezed into everything including Notepad for pity's sake.

Linux with Wayland is sweet. Gnome and KDE now use Wayland by default and they are celebrated for their usability. I personally have taken a leaner approach by opting for Sway (tiled) and labwc (floating) depending on the current task.

TL;dr _ Get with the times, Linux is great. Windows UX is actually rather good, but the leadership of MSFT continues to be ghoulish.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by uxp100 »

treetalker wrote: post #87
uxp100 wrote: post #13

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iOS 26 is also very bad. Many Christmas conversations between boomers baffled by their phones, and as I younger (than boomer) person I am not as baffled but there are a number of things that take more button presses than they did in previous versions for no apparent reason. And it’s real ugly imo.

Viewing all tabs in Safari is the thorn in my side.

Yes, that’s the main one I was thinking of, though there are spots in the photos app too iirc.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by nozzlegear »

beezlebroxxxxxx wrote: post #70
SkyeCA wrote: post #46

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I've recently been using an Android phone a family member gave me after they upgraded and to my shock it's...fantastic? It's not at all like I remember Android from back in the early Android days.

Android has frequently been ahead of Apple in terms of features for years at this point. But Apple's overall "ecosystem" is (or was) much more cohesive, so everything felt very Apple, while Android's has (for better or worse) been something of a wild west situation; and iPhone's have excellent cameras. If you go with a flagship Android phone, though, you're now getting an equally good camera (if not better in some ca…

> I think this update is finally ending that for some people.

For some people in the HN social sphere, maybe. My sisters have had iPhones since they were first released in the naughties. They used to make fun of me for using Android and then Windows Phones (I'm on iOS now). The notion that my sisters would ever switch over to Android is risible; they don't care about phones "making advances" or having "security commitments." They care about iMessage, TikTok, Instagram and Snapchat.

There are no other phones that are not iPhones for them. The blue/green gap is real.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

cglan wrote: post #36

I think for the first time I’ve been considering moving off iOS because of liquid glass. The bugs on apple products have hit a breaking point for me. Mac is still unequivocally the best laptop around imho, but it’s less clear cut for phones. My iPhone 15 pro is borderline unusable. Every day is a new issue. I’m very much over it. You used to be able to count on the basics working smoothly, but stuff like the camera a…

I'm not the biggest fan of Liquid Glass, but I regularly use Android via single-use tablets and dev test devices and I think I dislike Material 3 Expressive even more. M3E feels weirdly awkward and unrefined and it's a struggle to come up with a color scheme that looks right. It would be a constant irritation if Android were my daily driver.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by nozzlegear »

mceachen wrote: post #82
bigyabai wrote: post #73

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Yep, my parents are both Android users and have to ask "where is the home button" when someone passes them an iPhone.

Followed by “where is the back button.” Answer: sometimes apps let you swipe right from the left margin, sometimes there may be a left arrow in the upper left, but it may not be visible unless you enable tinted Liquid Glass, but also look in the bottom left, there may be a less-than sign, and some times you have to force-quit the app and restart (like with Libby books borrowed via Kindle…)

I can't remember the last time I've encountered an app that didn't let you swipe to go back. That's practically built into iOS at this point.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by synapsomorphy »

I'm a Linux and Windows user thinking of getting a Macbook, mostly for the hardware.

All these recent proclamations of disappointment in Tahoe seem insanely overblown to me. The problem that this post leads with is that thumbnails' corners are too rounded, which "misrepresents" the original? Seriously?

Maybe it's worse now compared to the golden years, I don't know, never owned a Mac. And it's fair to criticize it from that perspective. But I am completely at a loss for how any of these issues could be bad enough to make you switch platforms. Windows and Linux are not exactly usability all-stars! I had to write my own app for decent speech-to-text on Linux which is built in at a system level on Macs.

This feels to me like just the age-old tale of people wanting to (love | hate) brands, when really, things are nuanced. I switched from Android to iOS recently and the experience did not change much. iOS is absolutely not "borderline unusable" like I've seen many claim. If anything it's maybe a 10% nicer experience overall.

Lack of nuance in people's takes makes for less signal in the noise and makes it annoying to figure out the actual pros and cons of different platforms.

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