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Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I put him up for the night on my sofa once. When you do this, you get his "rider". Google it, it's real, it's infamous for the "don't buy me a parrot" section. Anyway, in that, he makes clear that if people at dinner are not interested in talking about free software, he's going to pull out his laptop and get on with his work relating to free software. He doesn't care about fancy food, drinks, etc. - he wants to raise…

> I've seen him not being super nice to other people who were trying to have a conversation with him, not because he's not a nice person (I found him quite personable one on one), but it seems to me that he struggles to know how to behave around people who don't know how to just talk to him about things he wants to talk about. I'd argue that while he may be nice, it's also generally considered impolite to be someone…

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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He’s also fairly arrogant and unreasonable in various interactions¹, forcing people to bend over backwards to accommodate his requests. He puts off a lot of people and severely harms his own movement by making people who are not part of it think he’s gross, both physically (the infamous picking something of his feet and eating it) and intellectually (I have examples in mind but don’t wish to start a flame war). What…

> please do a cursory web search Each person reading this might come up with some different in their search. Do you have a specific example to point to?

No, they don't. I'm sure you're capable of finding one that suits the context here and reading it yourself.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I put him up for the night on my sofa once. When you do this, you get his "rider". Google it, it's real, it's infamous for the "don't buy me a parrot" section. Anyway, in that, he makes clear that if people at dinner are not interested in talking about free software, he's going to pull out his laptop and get on with his work relating to free software. He doesn't care about fancy food, drinks, etc. - he wants to raise…

> I've seen him not being super nice to other people who were trying to have a conversation with him, not because he's not a nice person (I found him quite personable one on one), but it seems to me that he struggles to know how to behave around people who don't know how to just talk to him about things he wants to talk about. I'd argue that while he may be nice, it's also generally considered impolite to be someone…

You don't owe random strangers your time, and it's so strange to me that people feel so entitled to other peoples time. Can also be argued that it's rude to engage a person on a topic they're not interested in.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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> I'm beginning to think that nobody other than me has spent a significant amount of time with severely autistic people. I'm going to say that your definition of "severely autistic" is actually mild to moderate at worst. The definition of "severely autistic" I know of and have seen in personal experience (family) and in my career has nothing to do with "masking" and such. It's being a late teenager who is effectively…

The “severe” autism that I used to experience, at least the most severe that I experienced was non-verbal, sometimes with violent outbursts. But of course there’s a whole range. What concerns me though is that when I’m on the internet, people talk about autism like it’s a quirky character flaw that can be overridden with moderate effort. Which feels criminally ignorant.

Hasn’t the definition of autism in the DSM changed to the point of requiring only a single characteristic to be “technically” on the spectrum, whereas it used to require many more criteria? I think it’s literally “not what it used to be”.

It seems like a diagnosis that would benefit from more distinguishing words so as not to conflate people at different ends of that spectrum.

It must be infuriating or Bewildering to see someone knowingly nodding along saying, “oh yeah. I’m autistic too,” when other autistic people you know literally aren’t capable of doing that.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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common theme: tiled layout, terminals, minimum fancy decorations.

I think I see only one truly tiled layout. But yes, "terminals and editors" as the core developer workflow is extremely conserved over time. It dates from the mid 80's on Sun 2's and really hasn't changed much in four decades. It's probably not worth arguing whether this is the "best" when compared with vscode+LSP+Claude or whatever happens to be en vogue in the moment. But terminals and editors is sticky in a way th…

I've came across Mitchell Hashimoto (founder and main programmer behind Hashi Corp and now Ghostty) saying that he uses bare VIM and it took him long time to even use auto formatter with it. He also said that the way for him to explore APIs is to read the docs first :)

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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RMS is an extremist, and not the kind of person I tend to agree with, he seems to be a bit of an asshole too... But that's also the kind of people we need. Companies are not going to compromise on their profits, we need someone to balance that and not compromise on software freedom. With these two extremes we can take an balanced position and that's how we got Linux and distros like Debian: it is free software, but i…

I lived a year in a great hostel run by a German girl in Mexico. She was always planning social events, hyping the place so that it was full of interesting people, and more. It was the most social part of my life even though I was 30. But she also was frantic and obsessive and short tempered which was off putting. Other guests would often complain about her, and they would phrase it as if she’d be cool if only she co…

> But she also was frantic and obsessive and short tempered which was off putting.

My audio subsystem behaves exactly the same way!

Sometimes I'll send it a simple email politely asking to grab the block of samples it just sent to the soundcard and replace them with different samples that I've included as an attachment. It always makes this rude clicking noise at me which I do not appreciate at all.

I guess it's too much to ask to just take a little time to fashion a polite response while also hitting soft realtime deadlines. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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RMS to me is really a curious case. He doesn't know how to install GNU+Linux and relies on others to do it. He doesn't know how to take a screenshot, and I remember reading other snippets from him about not knowing how to perform other basic tasks.

Most screenshots for these well known guys are quite boring. Coincidence? I think if you want to be good at something you need focus.

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Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I met RMS at the Atlanta Linux Showcase in 1998. In the area with vendor booths in the lobby area of the show, he had laid down a blanket and was sitting in the middle with his legs crossed. He had printed copies of man pages printed and stapled together with covers laid out in front of him. I walked up and introduced myself and said that I was a big fan, appreciated his hard work, etc. He looked at me coldly and jus…

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I don't think Stallman is a communist. I'm a communist and initially I looked into it to learn more, but it's just a kind of techno-anarchism. The thing he misses is the thing that many (not all) anarchists miss: that there is a larger centralizing logic to capitalism that can't be resisted by small scale decentralized efforts and legal maneuvers. Rather, he does recognize the centralizing logic (the reason d'etre behind the GPL!) but I think it's become clear at this point that the general course of the evolution of the landscape has favored capitalist interests even though free and open source software has had a significant (and in many cases quite favorable) impact.

Free software gives people part of the means of production. In the 1980s/early-1990s model where personal computers were common but most software was run locally, it was an effective challenge to corporate interests, but since the evolution of robust networks and remotely processed software, it has ceased to be nearly as effective.

However, it's important to note that if free software ever truly challenged industrial interests, they would just get the laws changed to prevent it from restricting them in any real way using some bizarre legal maneuver. As it is, it is tolerable and produces useful products corporations can use for free. That's what it means to live under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I echo this. My desktop has stayed virtually unchanged for decades, and in retrospect, it explains why I use the Sway tiling window manager today.

My desktop progression has been 1989: twm 1995: ctwm 2000: kde 2022: lxde

I moved from ctwm to kde because they accepted a patch that allowed me to maintain some modifier/mouse shortcuts I had configured in twm. Gnome rejected my patch

Moved to lxde because kde got too complex and hard to deal with

Still run tcsh with a .cshrc migrated from one i cloned from a friend at university

I’ve been on a bsd based workstation since the 80s with a few years on Mac and linux. Sunos->ultrix->osf/1 -> FreeBSD (on alpha) -> FreeBSD i386 -> macOS x -> Ubuntu-> FreeBSD/amd64

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