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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#191

Every day HN just makes me glad I've completely abandoned Windows outside of employers who make me use it for work. I can honestly do all the same work I do at any Software Engineering job from Linux or Mac, neither option phases me.

There are plenty of employers who will make you use Linux for work.

...and probably fewer who want to stay on Windows, given how tight they usually are about leaking IP or PII, although some may still have some unusual trust of M$.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff. The real change was internally. Satya is well-known for eradicating the "Art of War" environment and bringing workers together. He also fully embraced open-source (Balmer hated OSS) and R&D has continued to innovate. (Still boggles the mind that F# exists and is awesome) Prior to CoPilot, my only beef was that Azure needs a ground up re-architecture. They bolte…

Given the option, I always favour Azure over AWS or GCP. AWS is a complexity maze, whereas GCP seems Google only does the minimum and one can only talk to bots.

You can pay for professional services.

In Sweden the only one I ever got support with was Google, so it’s not a universal experience (I didn’t pay for professional services).

I believe you and I have had this discussion before.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft What? How? From a user's perspective, everything has gotten steadily worse under his reign. Solitaire is now a subscription service. I long for the halcyon days of Windows 8.

Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff. The real change was internally. Satya is well-known for eradicating the "Art of War" environment and bringing workers together. He also fully embraced open-source (Balmer hated OSS) and R&D has continued to innovate. (Still boggles the mind that F# exists and is awesome) Prior to CoPilot, my only beef was that Azure needs a ground up re-architecture. They bolte…

> Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff.

Sure it was. Just as OP wrote:

> From a user's perspective, everything has gotten steadily worse under his reign.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#194
post #185

A secret agent running in the background, with my data stolen from the foreground? How queer! I see the battlegrounds shift from large networks to the personal computer, where malware, hand in hand with AI will steal the virtual crown jewels day after day, slurping and leaking PII data non stop. AI will be baked in so deep into the Windows eco- and subsystem, that it's a wet dream come true for hackers and nation sta…

Is it any more "secret" then other background services like search index?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#195

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

I opened my outlook android app today to find they'd replaced the archive button in the bottom toolbar with a "Summary by Copilot" one. It wasn't enough that the only colourful button is the Copilot one on the right.

Thankfully they still let you reorder the buttons, so I moved archive back and hid that unwanted summary in the overflow menu.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#196
post #41

I don't want this feature. I have LaTeX documents on my computer containing my personal thoughts. Some of them I want to keep to myself. And some of them contain my own ideas that I find embarrassing. I don't want to hand those documents over to Microsoft servers, nor do I want them used for AI training. I want them to know that these deeply personal thoughts are mine.

Is this AI agent not running locally?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#197
post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of money lost when millions of small restaurants and other retail shops suddenly become unable to accept customer payments for an unknown amount of time because Microsoft thinks Windows should force update during rush hour rather than allowing the computer owner to wait until closing time, would seem to be far greater than the amount of money lost with once-in-10-years WannaCry attacks

Don't you get out of forced updates if you set yourself regural update point ? (e.g. every Sunday night) Most users, for better or worse, don't want any update ever, unless they wish for a specific feature. We're at a state where there's only once-in-10-years massive attacks exactly because of mandatory security updates that will be forced on the user if they have no intention to install it ever.

Maybe the 3rd largest tech company in the entire world could spend a little time figuring out how to hot patch their OS. Heaven forbid they actually innovate on something.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#198

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I think in this case, Microsoft has shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates. This has happened during my time working retail and the mom and pops are helpless when this happens. I would never trust Microsoft to bake ai agents in..

> shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates Are you familiar with the prior state of things that explicitly motivated this change?

i dont want a device to tell me when i need to restart it, thats my decission.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#199
post #45

> Instead of letting an agent act directly as you, Windows spins up this extra workspace, gives it limited access (like specific folders such as Documents or Desktop), and keeps its actions isolated and auditable. > Each agent can have its own workspace and access rules, so what one agent can see or do doesn’t automatically apply to others, and you stay in control of what they’re allowed to touch. This actually sound…

Are you kidding? This is pure theft. If I got into your computer and accessed your Documents and Desktop, I'd be in jail but its OK when Microsoft does it.

Does this not run locally?
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