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What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by sillystu04 »

spooky_deep wrote: post #190
nomel wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in manufacturing in the US. Incoming quality control, for Chinese vendors, is necessarily set up with zero-trust. This isn't a "trust but verify" sort of thing, it's strictly "do not trust". Assume that, at every step of the chain, there will be a lie: change of process, material change, collected data, and that the product being given to you is even yours (delivering a knockoff at the final step, and resellin…

Must cost a fortune for business to operate in such a low trust environment. Free market types take note: good regulation and “red tape” can actually help free enterprise

Isn't this a matter of tort law rather than regulation?

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by tetha »

doctorhandshake wrote: post #38

I have a recalled Anker battery sitting on my stoop, lest it burn my house down. Who on earth (NE USA ideally) will accept this for safe disposal / recycling? Normal battery recycling places don’t want a recalled battery, natch. Serious question, pls help

Ask your local firefighters if their trainees want to see what happens if such a power bank goes up and how to handle it.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by quietbritishjim »

BobbyTables2 wrote: post #158
muratsu wrote: post #60

I think the CT scan tech is cool and the article is written nicely but I don't get the point of this article. Seems like if Anker were using the CT scanner, they still wouldn't be able spot the change. I'm confused.

The article authors didn’t want to physically destroy 5 products just to see if anything changed. Would you want to tear down Lithium batteries??? It’s slightly hazardous…

The article authors sell 3d scanning products, so a more plausible explanation is that the whole point of the article is to promote that.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by k33l0r »

lopis wrote: post #32
madars wrote: post #3

The article doesn't show pictures of the unit itself, focusing on the CT scan, so here's the recall notice: https://www.anker.com/a1263-recall

That link is redirecting to the home page

Anker is very bad at handling country/region redirects correctly. If you're not located in the region the link is pointing at, they'll just redirect you to the home page of whatever region they think you should be looking at.

This is really annoying when trying to find product information because, for example, the Anker Nordics site doesn't have product pages for all the products they sell in Europe, but they won't let you look at product pages from other regions without some VPN shenanigans.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

arccy wrote: post #187
dotancohen wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is also very spread out, with an ocean bisecting. Not exactly "skilled workers right across the street" for most of that land.

not just an ocean, the various governments and visas make it hard to move people you need

Visas are a political human construct subject to change, not a immovable force of nature. The same visa keeping workers out, can always be removed or changed over night if desired to achieve the opposite effect: move masses of skilled people in. See operation paperclip.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by homebrewer »

godelski wrote: post #76

First off, I love Luma Field. Always incredible to see what's going on inside things. Even just fun to scroll through their Twitter. Second, Anker is one of the few companies I actually have a very high trust for. A few years back I bought a wall charger[0] from them, it has 2 USB-C and a Type A. A month in, one of the Type-C ports wouldn't charge if the other port was being used. If you send a support ticket they an…

I don't know about the rest of their products, but their over-ear headphones (Q45 being one specific example) have very weak attachment of the cup to the frame that often cracks and then breaks withing several months of use. This has been well known for at least a decade, and they have done nothing to fix it.

Sounds like they have alright customer service, if you live in a region where it is actually available (not me), and don't care about polluting the environment with yet more short-lived plastic trash. Not really something to support with one's hard-earned money IMHO.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by homebrewer »

Clamchop wrote: post #147
y7r4m wrote: post #67

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It would be awesome if we were able to get more things besides vapes (and apparently some flashlights; I assume there are many niches where they are common) to use 18650 or even 21700 li-ion cells. I see most people I know buy AAs by the pallet and go through them regularly for their controllers, led lights, kids toys, etc.. and few I believe bother to dispose of them correctly. Also, repeating your sentiment, for al…

I didn't know many were still buying alkaline AAs in large quantities. I've been using LSD NiMH AAs and AAAs for I think more than 15 years and haven't looked back. They seem to work with everything.

There's still lots of poorly produced electronics that treat NiMH that is within its normal operating voltage as being out of juice, and either nag you or shut down completely. My supposedly high quality Logitech mouse is one example (probably not buying anything from Logitech ever again, they're one of those brands that are coasting on their old credibility).

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by draven »

bluescrn wrote: post #53
doctorhandshake wrote: post #38

I have a recalled Anker battery sitting on my stoop, lest it burn my house down. Who on earth (NE USA ideally) will accept this for safe disposal / recycling? Normal battery recycling places don’t want a recalled battery, natch. Serious question, pls help

Hmm, got a PowerCore 10000 here, but Anker's UK site don't seem to have a listed as a recalled model ( https://www.anker.com/uk/product-recalls ) Are models sold in some regions different/known-good? Should probably at least discharge it to be safe(r), I guess.

I also have one (model A1263) bought on Amazon FR. Anker doesn't list it as recalled on their FR site. It lists others though https://www.anker.com/fr/rc2506

Maybe the faulty batteries were only used for some models/regions pairs ?

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by homebrewer »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #174
mmh0000 wrote: post #55

I have two of these powerbanks, one ordered in 2019 and another in 2021. Amazon sent me scary emails saying these things will kill me. Anker's recall site says I'm not affected and the product is safe to use. I'm not sure who to trust, but I've erred on the side of caution and trashed the batteries. Because it's not worth dying in a fire over $30 in batteries.

> I've erred on the side of caution and trashed the batteries How is throwing a potentially damaged lithium battery into the trash, where no batteries of any kind should go, cautious?

No idea where GP lives, but in lots of places there's simply no other option. Your best bet is to discharge the battery as far as you can make it, and then dump it with the rest of the trash. I don't have anyone willing to accept any batteries for recycling withing a few thousand kilometers. And yes, Amazon ships here just fine.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Post by [deleted] »

bboygravity wrote: post #119
phil21 wrote: post #110

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Yep. Anything I get from China, even from a vendor I have done lots of business with in the past gets at minimum random samples inspected and tested when appropriate. Every single shipment, zero exceptions before use. So many things are caught. At best there is a lack of QA on the Chinese side, but it's definitely worse than that. They have no qualms sending you known-bad items, and just see it as "maybe the customer…

I don't get how it's possible that nobody (other than Tesla) can manufacture batteries in the West? It a glance this feels insane. Batteries are in everything and such a basic need. How is it possible that buying through known scammers with tons of QA is still cheaper than manufacturing in the West? Obviously for Tesla it isn't cheaper to buy from China, so why is it thought to be cheaper for the rest of the West? Is…

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