The Stallman Report

Post by mikrotikker » Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 5:15 AM UTC

tomcam wrote: post #189

mikrotikker wrote: post #186

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Giving a card to a woman asking her out is sexual misconduct?

I’m thinking more this: > We have several uncorroborated testimonies of women, including minors, being overtly sexualized during this routine, some without consent. In the course of our research we discovered that one of these routines was recorded, in which Stallman brings a 13 year-old girl on stage and makes sexually suggestive remarks about her in front of a crowd at FKFT 2008 in Barcelona.

Post by e844dbe8fb » Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 8:13 AM UTC

noname09 wrote: post #19

Honestly, it looks like a personal RMS hate page written by an autistic (or someone in a manic state) man. I can't say that someone who goes through years of mailing lists looking for evidence of RMS saying controversial things is sane. Besides that, the fact of expressing a controversial opinion is not a crime, and shouldn't (and can't) be punished. What is really important, is that the modern cancel culture (and th…

Post by mikrotikker » Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 2:21 PM UTC

deepl_derber wrote: post #172

carapace wrote: post #43

Character assassination by anonymous cowards. The Free Software movement has been completely routed. MS owns GitHub. The farmers fighting for the "right to repair" their tractors are the "front" of the "battle" for user empowerment. But sure let's beat the shit out of the dead horse that's actually a real live old man with cancer who wrote fucking Emacs, see if that helps?

> Character assassination by anonymous cowards. Character assassination involves lies. The majority of this is just "here's a collection of absolutely indefensible shit RMS said, in his own words".

Post by mikrotikker » Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 2:31 PM UTC

stallman_report wrote: post #27

neptune22 wrote: post #8

This is really great work getting all of the evidence into one place. Really helpful, thanks. I really like the focus on the victims. I am a previous PhD student who worked under Marvin Minsky, and I do believe that there is no evidence that Minsky was present for any sexual misconduct, and some of the quotes about Minksy do not mention that there is no evidence of Minsky's sexual misconduct. I believe the quotes abo…

We reviewed our references to Minsky throughout the report and felt that we could indeed improve the presentation of the quotes which mention him, and we have done so. However, I will state just for the record here that our researchers have looked into the allegations regarding Minsky and do not feel comfortable exonerating him or standing up to defend his reputation, as it were -- we find the evidence plausible, but…

Post by mikrotikker » Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 2:36 PM UTC

deepl_derber wrote: post #174

fsflover wrote: post #114

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It doesn't mean that discussing it must result in a cancellation of a person though.

I agree, which is why it's fortunate that no one is or has suggested "cancelling" anyone for "discussing" things. The report's author(s) are advocating for removing RMS from positions of influence and authority from the free software community because he's advocating for child sex abuse and bestiality, harasses women, and is a shitty human being. Pretending that anyone ever has been jettisoned from their position or…