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Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#191

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>Octopuses seem to have quite a bit of independent cognition in each of their arms, which are wrangled by the central brain. Yes, that's inherent in the design. All grey matter (optimized for local intercommunication), no white matter (optimized for sending signals between regions). Each arm has its own ganglion ("CPU") and the central unit struggles to keep up with these and keep them coordinated.

living brains are not "CPUs"

why not?

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#192
post #172

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You should try Polvo à Lagareiro or Pulpo a la Gallega, life is too short to not eat good food.

You should try eating young children, life is too short to not eat good food. That's what that sounds like to someone that opts not to eat something on the basis of its intelligence

If my parents and everyone around me for thousands of years ate young children and they all told me it was legal and tasty and good for you, I probably would. But since it's not it'd seem you're making a false equivalency from the top of your horse.

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#193

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There's "antipodes" though.

Which implies that while the whole of ‘Australia and New Zealand’ can be referred to as ‘the antipodes’, Australia or New Zealand alone should be called ‘an antipus’.

"Antipous" has been used as a singular form of the word in some 19th-century works [0].

[0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/antipous#English

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#194
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Delicatessen itself is a French loanword (délicatesse) in German that's wrongly pluralized, it should be délicatesses not delicatessen. So it's like doubly wrong.

But according to Wikipedia, the French délicatesse is an Italian loanword (delicatezza)...

It's loan words all the way down. We just don't have enough info about prehistory to complete the chain all the way back to local variants of caveman speak.

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#195

The fish are able to gather food from the sand which the octopus moves. It happend to me too in the ocean where fish around my feet followed along the spots in the sand I touched. Therefore I was hunting together with fish!?

Yes, you just aren't as good at it as the octopus. Maybe if you practiced more?

Maybe if he punched the fish...

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#196
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post #101

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Not doing that is why future generations will loathe me and my generation.

If you're referring to not choosing to eat meat, I sort of doubt future generations will 'loathe' you - just as I don't 'loathe' members of previous generations who did things we've since learned better about.

Yeah, generally when you see historical figures talked about like that it's people who were standout bad and criticized even in their own times, like Christopher Columbus.

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

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While I'm all for a history lesson (and the double-I octopii is indeed simply incorrect) I take issue with anyone insisting that "octopi" is wrong: 1. Language is neither static nor a series of rules to be blindly followed. The way a word was pluralized 1400 years ago has limited relevance today. 2. As noted just about everywhere, "octopodes" looks insane in any modern English sentence because we don't pluralize any…

> Language is neither static nor a series of rules to be blindly followed. It's also not open to arbitrary subjective opinion. There are rules, this is not 'Nam. :) Languages evolve, but you can't just claim something is correct because you think so or you'd love it to be so. It's incorrect in English language, today. Maybe in the future, when more people start using the plural "octopi", it will be correct. Fun fact:…

> It's also not open to arbitrary subjective opinion. There are rules

> Conversations follow rules of etiquette because conversations are social interactions, and therefore depend on social convention. Specific rules for conversation arise from the cooperative principle. Failure to adhere to these rules causes the conversation to deteriorate or eventually to end. Contributions to a conversation are responses to what has previously been said.

Both parties must agree on those rules. There is no mandate that one must follow another's rules, in the initial engagement. This is helpful to understand, in modern online discourse. If someone doesn't want to play by some basic rules, further engagement is likely futile and unproductive.

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

#198

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Octopuses don’t have money, so the people with money aren’t interested in putting more resources into understanding octopuses.

But surely if they can punch fish they can click ads?

Awaiting the ad industry giants to see this new source of end users.

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

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While I'm all for a history lesson (and the double-I octopii is indeed simply incorrect) I take issue with anyone insisting that "octopi" is wrong: 1. Language is neither static nor a series of rules to be blindly followed. The way a word was pluralized 1400 years ago has limited relevance today. 2. As noted just about everywhere, "octopodes" looks insane in any modern English sentence because we don't pluralize any…

The best plural is simply keeping the word the same as the singular. I.e. "octopus". There are many animals using this form, e.g. fish, deer, elk, salmon, buffalo. E.g. Look at all those octopus. All the divers I know say it this way, easy to say, understand, doesn't make you sound like an asshole.

That's hardly 'the best'. Recognizable plural is a useful language feature.

Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish

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But according to Wikipedia, the French délicatesse is an Italian loanword (delicatezza)...

It's loan words all the way down. We just don't have enough info about prehistory to complete the chain all the way back to local variants of caveman speak.

Cavemen would really hate our quintuple pluralization.
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