I used to love eating octopus, but since I've learned so much about their intelligence, I have not been able to bring myself to do so, anymore. I have the luxury of choice. There are many, in this world, that do not.
Consider the intelligence of pigs as well. Even if cows, sheep, deer, rabbits, chickens, turkeys, et al. all sit below the "I don't want to eat you" cutoff point, pigs should probably be above it.
Octopuses seen hunting together with fish
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#102The fish are able to gather food from the sand which the octopus moves. It happend to me too in the ocean where fish around my feet followed along the spots in the sand I touched. Therefore I was hunting together with fish!?
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Typically octopuses produce offspring only near the end of their life, so eating them at any point is destructive for their reproduction and species health.
Eat them after they reproduced then, they only do that once in their life.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incidentally, if, as per etymology, we consider the tentacles as feet, then the headline is wrong as the Octopodes are technically kicking the fishes.
Technically speaking, Octopuses don't have tentacles at all. Those are arms. The morphology of "Octopus" is actually a really great example case for demonstrating paraconsistent logic.
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#105longevity research for cephalopods seems like it could be really fruitful.
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#106I used to love eating octopus, but since I've learned so much about their intelligence, I have not been able to bring myself to do so, anymore. I have the luxury of choice. There are many, in this world, that do not.
Consider the intelligence of pigs as well. Even if cows, sheep, deer, rabbits, chickens, turkeys, et al. all sit below the "I don't want to eat you" cutoff point, pigs should probably be above it.
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#107Very cool! > “I think sociality, or at least attention to social information, is way more deep-rooted in the evolutionary tree than we might think,” Maybe, or maybe the neural power required to move all of those limbs is good enough at processing that they developed their own sophisticated behavior.
the only reason to doubt it would be an assumption that "attention to social information" can only happen in creatures with an complex central nervous systems. Which requires rather constrained definitions of "attention", "social", and "information"
ok, there is another reason to doubt it. inertia. We've been taught/told that a complex CNS is what makes intelligence, and it is hard to get away from that idea.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incidentally, if, as per etymology, we consider the tentacles as feet, then the headline is wrong as the Octopodes are technically kicking the fishes.
Technically speaking, Octopuses don't have tentacles at all. Those are arms. The morphology of "Octopus" is actually a really great example case for demonstrating paraconsistent logic.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
just because something is intelligent is no reason not to eat it imho
This is an honest question, I'm not making a joke. Why shouldn't we eat _you_ then?
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#110I love imagining how the fish are almost an extension of the way the octopuses think. Octopuses seem to have quite a bit of independent cognition in each of their arms, which are wrangled by the central brain. Now they're wrangling independent fish brains instead of octopus arm brains. Incredible