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Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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I don't see a license in the Github repo, so currently the code for this machine is only source available and not open source. https://github.com/diyPresso/diyPresso-One

It seems like they have just added a license

Well there we go. I wonder if they read my comment :)

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Flair Espresso has a similar thing and it looks like they have European distributors. https://flairespresso.com/distributors/ I have the Original and have had it since it was the only thing they made. It's picky but if you get it all dialed right it makes great espresso.

The prices on some of the hand pumps are wild to me. I feel like if I'm going to go the hand pump route, then I shouldn't be paying the same price as a Gaggia Classic Pro.

Easy fix, just price out an Olympia Mina and then the other hand pumps will seem cheap by comparison.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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The more I think about the more I feel that this is the wrong solution to the problem. Disclaimer: I'm doing a small open source espresso controller project, check it out if you're interested, but it's not ready for prime time yet: https://github.com/variegated-coffee . My thinking is that this machine appeals mostly to people who already has an espresso machine. It's not particularly technologically advanced. It's a…

I have a 200$ mini machine and would like to upgrade. Can DIY anything. What would you suggest for a maximum budget of 1500$?

Watch this video: https://youtu.be/e0kQ5WqjcU8?si=IQ-BVCU3cp4USqPx

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Or maybe they have tried it and don't like it. Maybe it is your taste that is screwed up and that is why you like light roast espresso. But either way even if Neapresso isn't the best coffee it isn't horrible.

> Or maybe they have tried it and don't like it. The vast majority of people have not tried well brewed coffee. Of those who have tried well brewed coffee, the vast majority have not tried well brewed light roast. The main reason is similar to how most people have not tried well prepared food. The reason is not, as you seem to insinuate, because I am a coffee snob who is incapable of conceding that different people h…

> Most people who drink coffee black (even in Italy) seem to do it either because they got used to how bad it tastes, or because of dietary reasons, or because they feel it makes them look more manly.

That's a pretty big generalisation IMO.

I just like coffee black because I tried it one time (there was no sugar) and I was surprised how nice it tasted. The only time I drink it with sugar now is with the typical Spanish "cafe con hielo" in summer because the cold brings out the bitterness more. I've never taken milk because I hate it in general.

But I truly like it. I've always hated the starbucks "milkshake" idea of coffee and I like it strongly tasting.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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But Spain is a country where people regularly drink espresso. It's the standard coffee type here :) Yet Nespresso (well mostly the aftermarket capsules) is very popular here.

I mean, Nespresso is also very popular in Italy despite it tasting strictly worse than anything you can get even at the worst cafes there but I think it's because drinking espresso with sugar is very popular in Italy and sugar goes an incredible way towards making a lot of mediocre espresso taste the same as good espresso (because the sugar is overpowering).

People in Spain don't generally put a lot of sugar in their coffee. They do often take a bit of milk though, not a lot (it's called 'cortado').

But coffee culture in Italy vs Spain is distinctly different despite both enjoying espressos. Italy takes their coffee much more seriously (and really, all foods and drinks in general). Whereas in Spain they don't really care so much. Like pizza with pineapple, or cutting spaghetti with a knife, if you do similar things with Spanish food (e.g. like paella with vegetables) people don't care - except the Valencians :)

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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If you make it a long drink yes (which you shouldn't as it overextracts). If you run it on the short program it's pretty strong. At least with local pods here in Spain.

Following Nespresso's own recommendations, the shortest program is still pulling 25 ml through A far cry from a proper 1:2 espresso, let alone ristretto.

Yeah ristretto it's not. But I do like some liquid and not too much caffeine.

I usually drink doubles with 1 normal and 1 decaf so I don't end up bouncing :P

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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The more I think about the more I feel that this is the wrong solution to the problem. Disclaimer: I'm doing a small open source espresso controller project, check it out if you're interested, but it's not ready for prime time yet: https://github.com/variegated-coffee . My thinking is that this machine appeals mostly to people who already has an espresso machine. It's not particularly technologically advanced. It's a…

I have a 200$ mini machine and would like to upgrade. Can DIY anything. What would you suggest for a maximum budget of 1500$?

Sage/Breville Dual Boiler and do the slayer mod + drip tray mod, you can then pull espresso that rivals any machine out there for a fraction of the cost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmQgxQ5Higw

The machine is old enough to be well understood with documented mods and fixes, it's dual boiler, triple PID, extreme temp stability, fill from the front, drip tray indicator. I love it.

https://home-barista.com/espresso-machines/breville-dual-boi...

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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I haven't really seen those in the wild yet. On the other hand there are plenty of cheap original Nespresso machines pretty much everywhere in Switzerland. In some countries Nestlé was virtually giving them away around 2010~2015. Shortly after, some patents expired and third party brands started selling plastic capsules, and Nestlé had to fight back and make their machines work poorly with these! As far as I know all…

Those are the Vertuo line, I believe they focus to sell it in the US market, since it is able to do way longer extractions. It goes up to 500 mL extractions or so. I don't like it, I think Original Nespresso tastes way better. Of course nothing compared to a good espresso extraction, but for a quick sip it is good enough.

Yes the pods can also be much bigger on the Vertuo. It's much more optimised for bigger coffees a la starbucks. Not for espresso.

But the main point of it is that they were able to create new patents and milk them for their duration.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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I don't disagree about snobbery, but there's a huge difference between drinks such as instant coffee, drip-machine coffee and correctly brewed, fresh coffee. I can't bring myself to drink instant coffee any more and will choose any kind of tea in preference to having to suffer the insult of instant "coffee". Drip-machine coffee at least uses real coffee, but in most people's hands leads to a horribly over-extracted b…

For a lot of people it is a difference without a distinction. Different strokes for different folks. I myself make my morning coffee in a moka pot and prefer it over for example a pour over coffee. I recently got a Ninja Luxe Cafe machine which I use for espresso and fast cold brew coffee drinks. It makes decent espresso and the money, time and mental energy for getting a slightly better espresso through a more expen…

I don't have a problem with people choosing to drink instant "coffee", but there's such a clear difference that and actual coffee, no matter the preparation method.

I'd agree that getting better quality espressos can get expensive very quickly, and moka pots make very nice coffee for the price (definitely diminishing returns for high end equipment).

To me, the best bang for your buck comes with grinding beans to order, as that means that your coffee isn't oxidising so much before you even brew it. Personally, I'm a fan of immersion brewing techniques, so an Aeropress is my weapon of choice - it's relatively cheap and can make outstanding coffee (also highly portable - I take it along with a hand grinder when camping).

And sorry, but I do find Nespresso to taste very flat and stale the few times that I've tried it. I'd rather just have a good cup of tea than a stale cup of coffee.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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The more I think about the more I feel that this is the wrong solution to the problem. Disclaimer: I'm doing a small open source espresso controller project, check it out if you're interested, but it's not ready for prime time yet: https://github.com/variegated-coffee . My thinking is that this machine appeals mostly to people who already has an espresso machine. It's not particularly technologically advanced. It's a…

It's also at least as expensive as more advanced machines you can buy already-assembled. If this was half the price, I might be interested. But if I wanted a coffee maker with open source control, I'd probably just hack an existing cheaper product. And I'm someone who absolutely loves assembling stuff from kits! Heck, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already got Doom running on a Sage.

Do you have a list of recommendations of kits that you enjoyed assembling?
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