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Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by arisAlexis »

aeturnum wrote: post #189
arisAlexis wrote: post #167

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Trying to avoid tattoos doesn't cause any issues. Radiation is normal in nature. Injecting lead into your epidermis isn't. Any amount will do harm just like 1 cigarette is worse than 0.

> Radiation is normal in nature. Radiation is normal in nature and will give you cancer. That's the main reason why people wear sunscreen[1]. It's not like there's a "natural" amount of radiation that is 100% safe and then you cross a boundary. I agree that avoiding tattoos is harmless. Tattoos have no "benefits" - but those aren't the statements we are critiquing. > just like 1 cigarette is worse than 0 This is almo…

> there exist many situations where your health would improve if you have your very first cigarette.

Can't argue with a science denier unfortunately, good luck

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by Suppafly »

cperciva wrote: post #138
h05sz487b wrote: post #94

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Please don‘t tattoo your guinea pig.

How things have changed. 30 years ago we said "please get your pets tattooed" because ear tattoos were how veterinarians reunited lost animals with their humans. Now we use RFID tags and tattooing is frowned upon.

The often tattoo strays as part of those neuter and release programs.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by roboror »

forgotusername6 wrote: post #184
m463 wrote: post #169

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sounds like lots of regulations. Stuff gets worse to get better. rohs solder. Leaded paints, enamel paints, water based paints. cars with smog pumps and catalytic converters.

You can add plastic food wrap to that list. The original was amazing at sticking to the plate.

Polyvinylidene chloride wrap somehow isn't widely regulated yet in the US, the formula for popular plastic wrap was voluntarily changed. AFAIK you can still get the "good" stuff at restaurant supply stores and certain retailers, but it's carcinogens do leach into food.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by dTal »

Galatians4_16 wrote: post #149
boppo1 wrote: post #66

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> barred from investigating the effect on humans Wait they're legally prevented from investigating tattoo inks? Why?

Isn't the FDA the same agency that authorized the use of Thalidomide for pregnant women, and then much later deauthorized it due to birth defects?

Forgive me - could you please clarify the relevance of thalidomide to the discussion at hand?

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by hnbad »

alpaca128 wrote: post #178
hnbad wrote: post #176

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ROHS solder, aka lead-free solder, is more difficult to work with so "worse", sure, but on the flip side you don't inhale lead fumes which accumulate in your body (i.e. will never leave your body) and have the delayed effect of causing lead poisoning which can do anything from making you stupider to literally killing you. I'd say the good outweighs the bad here and maybe leaded solder shouldn't be sold to amateurs wh…

> lead-free solder, is more difficult to work with This kind of statement always puzzles me. Leaded solder was an absolute nightmare to use for me, after the switch to the lead-free one I was suddenly much better at soldering within minutes. It was like going from square to round wheels.

I haven't had the (dis)pleasure of working with leaded solder myself so I'm going by anecdotes but lead-free solder seems to have a higher melting point so presumably it's easier to damage components through overheating when working with lead-free solder than leaded solder.

Either way, my point is that regardless of whether there are benefits, they're not worth dying for (or suffering from lead poisoning).

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by datavirtue »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #33
simmerup wrote: post #20

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Midlife is when everyone starts doing cool stuff because theyve built up the income to service it Do whatever you like, it’s your life

Yup. John didn’t buy that classic car because he’s in a midlife crisis. He bought it because it’s been his dream car since he was 12, and, with the kids out of the house, he can finally get it without having a bad conscience. (It just costs $80k now instead of $8k back in 1972)

$8k is a crazy amount of 1972 money for a car.

It's the $3000 cars that are going for $80k.

Oddly enough, the luxury high end cars at $8k in 1972 is the equivalent of $60k in 2024. With average new car price being ~$48k today, if the average automobile price stayed the same from 1972 the average new car price would be $26k today.

Something went off the rails. Ah...tarrifs. nvm

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by m463 »

hnbad wrote: post #176
m463 wrote: post #169

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sounds like lots of regulations. Stuff gets worse to get better. rohs solder. Leaded paints, enamel paints, water based paints. cars with smog pumps and catalytic converters.

ROHS solder, aka lead-free solder, is more difficult to work with so "worse", sure, but on the flip side you don't inhale lead fumes which accumulate in your body (i.e. will never leave your body) and have the delayed effect of causing lead poisoning which can do anything from making you stupider to literally killing you. I'd say the good outweighs the bad here and maybe leaded solder shouldn't be sold to amateurs wh…

I was arguing for making things better (at the expense of some good solutions)

The people that complain are correct. For example, asbestos IS a good technical solution! But it is worse in the big picture, therefore we need another solution that might not be perfect.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by m463 »

hammock wrote: post #182
m463 wrote: post #169

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sounds like lots of regulations. Stuff gets worse to get better. rohs solder. Leaded paints, enamel paints, water based paints. cars with smog pumps and catalytic converters.

What about enamel and water based paints?

enamel paint on cars was traditionally the best paint, and lead or oil based paints the best for houses/etc. But now we use water-based paints because they are safer for lead content or chemical fumes when drying.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Post by nikolay »

svnt wrote: post #172
nikolay wrote: post #109

Vanity is a sin, and sin corrupts the body.

“There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?”

Actually, there's a vast difference between exposing sin and judging. Was John the Baptist judging Herod?
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