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No update on availability in European Union (still unavailable) :/

Crazy to be so ahead of the curve but sacrifice all first mover advantage in an entire continent like this.

They're not really ahead of the curve ...

Also, Mistral is in Europe. By the time they enter the EU there will only be breadcrumbs left.

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Trying to subscribe to pro but website keeps loading (404 to stripe's /invoices is the only non 2xx I see)

Actually, I also noticed 400 to consumer_pricing with response "Invalid country" even though I'm in Switzerland, which should be supported?

Re: Claude 3 model family

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Just added Claude 3 to Chat at https://double.bot if anyone wants to try it for coding. Free for now and will push Claude 3 for autocomplete later this afternoon. From my early tests this seems like the first API alternative to GPT4. Huge!

Emacs implementation when? ;)

I just checked - surprisingly I cannot find any Emacs AI implementation that supports Claude's API.

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>>So far gpt is the only one able to answer to variations of these prompts You're saying that when Mistral Large launched last week you tested it on (among other things) explaining jokes?

Sorry I did what? When?

You linked to a lesswrong post with prompts asking the AI to explain jokes (among other tasks?) and said only Openai models can do it, didn't you? I'm confused why you said only OpenAI models can do it?

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Just signed up for Claude Pro to try out the Opus model. Decided to throw a complex query at it, combining an image with an involved question about SDXL fine tuning and asking it to do some math comparing the cost of using an RTX 6000 Ada vs an H100. It made a lot of mistakes. I provided it with a screenshot of Runpod's pricing for their GPUs, and it misread the pricing on an RTX 6000 ADA as $0.114 instead of $1.14.…

I'm convinced GPT is running separate helper functions on input and output tokens to fix the 'tokenization' issues. As in, find items of math, send it to this hand made parser and function, then insert result into output tokens. There's no other way to fix the token issue. For reference, Let's build the GPT Tokenizer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zduSFxRajkE

GPT has for some time output "analyzing" in a lot of contexts. If you see that, you can go into settings and tick "always show code when using data analyst" and you'll see that it does indeed construct Python and run code for problems where it is suitable.

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Anthropic is also not really a traditional startup. It’s just some large companies in a trench coat.

How so? Because they have taken large investments from Amazon and Google? Or would you also characterize OpenAI as "Microsoft in a trench coat"?

100% OpenAI is Microsoft in a trenchcoat.

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The Opus model that seems to perform better than GPT4 is unfortunately much more expensive than the OpenAI model. Pricing (input/output per million tokens): GPT4-turbo: $10/$30 Claude 3 Opus: $15/$75

Yeah the output pricing I think is really interesting, 150% more expensive input tokens 250% more expensive output tokens, I wonder what's behind that? That suggests the inference time is more expensive then the memory needed to load it in the first place I guess?

> 150% more expensive input tokens 250% more expensive output tokens, I wonder what's behind that?

Nitpick: It's 50% and 150% more respectively.

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Why is that ? Thanks for the tip that will help 700 million people.

They don't want to comply with the GDPR or other EU laws.

So one shouldn't expect any privacy.

GDPR is easy to comply with unless you don't offer basic privacy to your users/customers.

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Crazy to be so ahead of the curve but sacrifice all first mover advantage in an entire continent like this.

That continent wants their citizens to be safe. So, their citizens are going to pay the price of not having access to these developments as they are happening. I really doubt any of these big players will willingly launch in EU given how big the fines are from EU.

I'm sitting in Berlin, Germany, EU right now using Claude-3 Opus. I've been officially onboarded a few weeks ago.

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How would that work technically, from a cost of goods sold perspective? (honestly asking, curious)

The "cost" is storing the state of the LLM after processing the input. My back-of-the-envelop guesstimate gives me 1GB to capture the 8bit state of 70B parameters model (I might be wrong though, insights are welcome), which is quite manageable with NVMe storage for fast reload. The operator would charge per pay per "saved" prompt, plus maybe a fix per call fee to re-load the state.

My calculation of kv cache gives 1GB per 3000 tokens for fp16. I am surprised openAI competitors haven't done this. This kind of features have not so niche uses, where prefix data could be cached.
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